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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children) That is of course quite possible. That's just the way it is when you don't build on a political program, but on hatred and idiocy instead. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) This video explained it very well for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g TL;DW: The Alt-Right online presence fails in real life; at some point, frothing rageaholic incels pop a gasket and head on out into the world. Mostly, as cowards, they attack innocent civilians, but if one was particularly focused on Saint McRapey they might go that way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) The video sums it up pretty well. In my opinion, it's all the sadder that all this even works internationally. I'm from Germany and we're dealing with the same problem here, with the same right-wing radical rhetoric on social media and all the bogus arguments that go with it: People who think they are entitled to more because of their nationality (or whatever) than they have achieved on their own in their lives. I'm all the more ashamed because, unlike the USA, we have a reasonably functioning social system (so that can't be an excuse). Just because of that, it should be much more difficult to recruit people for fascist ideas here, but the sad assholes who want to rule the lives of others because it doesn't conform to their narrow-minded ideas seem all the more prevalent here. It's enough to make you cry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s almost like the impetus for these far-right movements is somehow multi-national or something. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don't care about the "couleur" of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that's why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago* Also you'd think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart. permalink fedilink source parent [+] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the only movie that started out as satire and became a documentary over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago There’s still time for Mad Max to be true, be patient. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) This video explained it very well for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g TL;DW: The Alt-Right online presence fails in real life; at some point, frothing rageaholic incels pop a gasket and head on out into the world. Mostly, as cowards, they attack innocent civilians, but if one was particularly focused on Saint McRapey they might go that way too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) The video sums it up pretty well. In my opinion, it's all the sadder that all this even works internationally. I'm from Germany and we're dealing with the same problem here, with the same right-wing radical rhetoric on social media and all the bogus arguments that go with it: People who think they are entitled to more because of their nationality (or whatever) than they have achieved on their own in their lives. I'm all the more ashamed because, unlike the USA, we have a reasonably functioning social system (so that can't be an excuse). Just because of that, it should be much more difficult to recruit people for fascist ideas here, but the sad assholes who want to rule the lives of others because it doesn't conform to their narrow-minded ideas seem all the more prevalent here. It's enough to make you cry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s almost like the impetus for these far-right movements is somehow multi-national or something. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don't care about the "couleur" of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that's why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago* Also you'd think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) The video sums it up pretty well. In my opinion, it's all the sadder that all this even works internationally. I'm from Germany and we're dealing with the same problem here, with the same right-wing radical rhetoric on social media and all the bogus arguments that go with it: People who think they are entitled to more because of their nationality (or whatever) than they have achieved on their own in their lives. I'm all the more ashamed because, unlike the USA, we have a reasonably functioning social system (so that can't be an excuse). Just because of that, it should be much more difficult to recruit people for fascist ideas here, but the sad assholes who want to rule the lives of others because it doesn't conform to their narrow-minded ideas seem all the more prevalent here. It's enough to make you cry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s almost like the impetus for these far-right movements is somehow multi-national or something. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don't care about the "couleur" of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that's why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago* Also you'd think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It’s almost like the impetus for these far-right movements is somehow multi-national or something. ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don't care about the "couleur" of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that's why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Yes, I guess this is due to the friendly support of people like Elon Musk, who are probably less concerned with ideology than with expanding their powerbase in an autocratic system - these people don't care about the "couleur" of any system, the main thing is just even more power. I suppose that's why modern fascism has this strange love affair with pro-forma communist systems like Russia. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago* Also you'd think people in Germany would remember that time they let a fascist run things and he got tens of millions of people killed killed and the country invaded, occupied, and broken apart. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the only movie that started out as satire and became a documentary over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago There’s still time for Mad Max to be true, be patient. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's the only movie that started out as satire and became a documentary over time permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago There’s still time for Mad Max to be true, be patient. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago There’s still time for Mad Max to be true, be patient. permalink fedilink source parent