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[–] [email protected] 85 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (13 children)

Car makers should not sell our driving and location history to data brokers or insurance companies,

Car makers should not have access to this information at all, except in cases when the owner chooses to give them a specific piece of it.

(Similarly, phone makers should not have access to conversations and camera makers should not have access to videos, except in cases when the owner chooses to record and give them a specific piece.)

I would support a law forbidding this sort of data collection, with stiff penalties for accidental violations and prison time for willful violations.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (11 children)

It's insane to me the complete lack of consumer protection in the digital age. Our cars used to be our sanctuary. A symbol of freedom and comfort. Now they're dystopian nightmares that make me very uncomfortable.

Not only that, but you have companies replacing apple/android auto with shit tech they have no business building. Predictably there are leaks all the time.

Genuine question: are there any options out there for someone who wants a simple car and is willing to pay a little more to avoid built in spyware and subscriptions for every tiny feature?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Gotta buy used and not set up any features at all. Some cars that stuff only turns on if you opt in. Downside is you’re buying features you don’t use.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. I'd pay more for an EV that doesn't build in any tech at all outside of the primary function of the car.

We need to draw a line between "essential auto technology" and the internet-connected convenience tech. I would love an open source project like GrapheneOS for autos. Or even just a tablet I can connect to the power and the stereo/mic for any sort of internet connected functionality (GPS, music, etc). Either way I want my open source OS to manage the modem firmware as I have no trust in these companies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

EV’s tend to have the most “techie” features so that’s going to be tough unfortunately and messing with your car’s firmware/software could be potentially very, very dangerous tbh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Very true, but I can still dream haha

In an ideal scenario the EV driving tech could run locally with no network connection, and I can plug in something open / 3rd party for the network connected techie features

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I’d pre-order it today lol

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