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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

Extremely unpopular take but they're not worse than the CPUSA and their geopolitics are correct.

We'll see how it develops from here, many of these were MAGA guys explicitly supporting Trump before but the party official statements reject both parties by calling both trump and biden zionist and genocidal.

It is entirely possible they were engaging in tailism as a strategy to gain clout, and leech working class people from the republican party.

Honestly they have my critical support, for now. More chaos internally in the US is only good for the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It is true that they are not worse than the CPUSA. But just because they produce good "takes" doesn't make them worthy of critical support. They may have good ideas surrounding geopolitics, but their "critical" support (or lack thereof) makes them more prone to chauvinistic stances which are displayed within the takes of the Russian Federation. It may be more correct than the CPUSA's international stance, but they're both social chauvinists on different levels.

Let's not forget that patsocs initially "critically" supported Trump, who was deemed an anti-imperialist (or at least his actions were anti-imperialist) by Hazites, and likely the same by those who follow MWM or Hinkle. Just because the party statement rejects both parties doesn't mean it won't likely remain that stance. CPUSA claims to not be a puppet of the democrats yet in their twitter they claimed to be "small d democrats". Their tailism is a product of their chauvinism, they believe that the masses have nothing wrong with their thoughts, of being transphobic, homophobic, etc. That's revisionist, and just because they leech the working class from the republican party doesn't mean those chauvinistic thoughts go away. If anything it may be reinforced.

Also, critically supporting them for the sake of accelerationism is not going to do much. The regard for "chaos" at the cost of trans, gay, and black people would be more costly for them rather than for the cishet whites (or Conservatives to be more specific). This is not a party worthy of support, by any measure, as supporting them is supporting the same social-chauvinistic stances which Lenin initially opposed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'll still give them the benefit of the doubt, i am not American so my perception is very different. Let's evaluate on their actions and results going forward, they are very young so their politics are still developing.

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