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    CrowdStrike effectively bricked windows, Mac and Linux today.

    Windows machines won’t boot, and Mac and Linux work is abandoned because all their users are on twitter making memes.

    Incredible work.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    So, do all windows machines use this, or do you have to add this software?

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    It's separate software; CrowdStrike is independent from Microsoft and it isn't a default component of Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    It’s interesting that Microsoft is getting a lot of flack from this.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this isn't really the fault of windows.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Windows normalized running third party software as kernel level code.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

    Third parties love their trojans just being treated as normal way of life.

    "Anti-cheats" instead of not being imbeciles while designing protocols for multiplayer, "anti-viruses" which need to run kernel-level and download databases with executable code, video drivers which just can't be packaged with Windows.

    One thing I've realized is that large parts of social structure are dependent on cheating. We all want to cheat, so we all agree to a system where cheating is possible, but pretend it's not happening until someone gets caught and then just behave as if nothing happened.

    One necessary part of someone's upbringing is honesty. There's an amazingly deep moment in LOTR where Eomer says that Rohirrim don't lie, so they are not easily deceived.

    This is not a poetic device. This is how it works. Ponzi schemes usually target people who think they are smarter and more cunning and will gain something from them. And rigged security systems work because most of participants think they are the ones who may at some point abuse those systems, but most of them are the ones becoming eventually victims of such abuse.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    I think it's much simpler: people don't know what they're doing, while CEOs want to make more money so don't do appropriate (expensive) practices.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

    I know it's not simpler because I've tested it in society a few times.

    Also if you'd familiarized yourself with, as I said, the ways large-scale scams work, you'd notice this pattern too.

    And propaganda.

    And it's a common pattern in movies that the "good guys" can "hack" something or do something the shady way, and normies really do think that they'd be more comfortable with having that possibility. They see good secure systems as some kind of digital police state and don't understand that the existing world is much closer to that.

    I'm not impartial, of course, my interest in these parts of human psychology comes from studying Nazi Germany, Armenian Genocide, trying to understand why Russian society is as it is and how to fix it, same for Armenian society, and, ahem, engaging in discussions about corruption with people benefiting from it.

    In the latter case I was intentionally disallowing all aggressive emotions from my side and such and pretending to be naive and that we are all interested in a better world, and explaining how one can create systems where corrupt people don't multiply like cockroaches, and also arguing from the position of us all willing to solve problems allowing corruption and bendable rules to exist, and noting how stupid it is that someone absolutely unskilled in anything useful can benefit solely from occupying a right place, and that such critical points should be removed. Made them utterly furious and some other people, whom I considered kinda honest, rather unsympathetic to me.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

    If there is any software you want running at kernel though it is your AV. Not saying Spotify has a reason for running at kernel though.... But running AV at kernel in theory is a better way to protect the machine and you.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    It seems to be an enterprise product, meaning normal users might not have been affected. I wouldn't personnaly be able to confirm since I usually have 1-2 month uptime on my windows machine.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    Their computers may not be affected, but their everyday lives might be. Some of the affected services include 911, stoplights, banks, hospitals, and a whole other smorgasbord of stuff.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    It’s a general security solution. They run on Mac and Linux as well. It just happened that crowdstrike only released the broken update for windows.