▲ 1185 ▼ French election 2024 live: exit poll shows shock win for left-green alliance as far right falls to third (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by Womble@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 236 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] jagermo@feddit.org 129 points 2 years ago (1 child) Still, they are way too cocky all over the world. But great work, France. Thank you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I definitely wouldn't extrapolate anything about the rest of the world from this. I just remember "Le Pen is going to be the next president of France" being said more than once in my lifetime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] negativenull@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (2 children) Conservatives just lost the UK in a big way. France on course to do the same (not to the same extent). Tons of money (and Russian manipulation) are pushing hard for far-right politics, but they keep losing. Remember, abortion has won every time it's on the ballot since Roe was overturned. I'm still cautiously optimistic about the US's chances permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I agree with you in general, it's the electoral college that's a uniquely American fuckery I worry about. France and the UK don't have to worry about the majority vote being the losers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many levels of fuckery in the American system. It goes all the way up to just asking the supreme court (who you appointed) to please let you win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yep it’s fuckery turtles all the way down permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are more optimistic than I am, but I hope you're right. At this point, my hope is that at least Democrats will retain the congressional power to do something about a Trump regime I am seeing as an increasing inevitability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I'm still terrified, but I think the chances are better than the media is portraying currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget that the media's main goal is profit. How can they make sure to make more and more profit? By constantly showing you stuff that keeps you in fear and in turn makes you want to know everything that's happening. The only way to know the current events? Watch our media segments, read our newspaper, read our website etc. (also see 24/7 news cycle) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "The French are socialist cowards who don't know shit but actually get off their asses to protest...." -- 'Muricans permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (2 children) I definitely wouldn't extrapolate anything about the rest of the world from this. I just remember "Le Pen is going to be the next president of France" being said more than once in my lifetime. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] negativenull@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (2 children) Conservatives just lost the UK in a big way. France on course to do the same (not to the same extent). Tons of money (and Russian manipulation) are pushing hard for far-right politics, but they keep losing. Remember, abortion has won every time it's on the ballot since Roe was overturned. I'm still cautiously optimistic about the US's chances permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I agree with you in general, it's the electoral college that's a uniquely American fuckery I worry about. France and the UK don't have to worry about the majority vote being the losers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many levels of fuckery in the American system. It goes all the way up to just asking the supreme court (who you appointed) to please let you win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yep it’s fuckery turtles all the way down permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are more optimistic than I am, but I hope you're right. At this point, my hope is that at least Democrats will retain the congressional power to do something about a Trump regime I am seeing as an increasing inevitability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I'm still terrified, but I think the chances are better than the media is portraying currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget that the media's main goal is profit. How can they make sure to make more and more profit? By constantly showing you stuff that keeps you in fear and in turn makes you want to know everything that's happening. The only way to know the current events? Watch our media segments, read our newspaper, read our website etc. (also see 24/7 news cycle) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "The French are socialist cowards who don't know shit but actually get off their asses to protest...." -- 'Muricans permalink fedilink source parent
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (2 children) Conservatives just lost the UK in a big way. France on course to do the same (not to the same extent). Tons of money (and Russian manipulation) are pushing hard for far-right politics, but they keep losing. Remember, abortion has won every time it's on the ballot since Roe was overturned. I'm still cautiously optimistic about the US's chances permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I agree with you in general, it's the electoral college that's a uniquely American fuckery I worry about. France and the UK don't have to worry about the majority vote being the losers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many levels of fuckery in the American system. It goes all the way up to just asking the supreme court (who you appointed) to please let you win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yep it’s fuckery turtles all the way down permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are more optimistic than I am, but I hope you're right. At this point, my hope is that at least Democrats will retain the congressional power to do something about a Trump regime I am seeing as an increasing inevitability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I'm still terrified, but I think the chances are better than the media is portraying currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget that the media's main goal is profit. How can they make sure to make more and more profit? By constantly showing you stuff that keeps you in fear and in turn makes you want to know everything that's happening. The only way to know the current events? Watch our media segments, read our newspaper, read our website etc. (also see 24/7 news cycle) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 child) While I agree with you in general, it's the electoral college that's a uniquely American fuckery I worry about. France and the UK don't have to worry about the majority vote being the losers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many levels of fuckery in the American system. It goes all the way up to just asking the supreme court (who you appointed) to please let you win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yep it’s fuckery turtles all the way down permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) There are so many levels of fuckery in the American system. It goes all the way up to just asking the supreme court (who you appointed) to please let you win. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yep it’s fuckery turtles all the way down permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Yep it’s fuckery turtles all the way down permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) You are more optimistic than I am, but I hope you're right. At this point, my hope is that at least Democrats will retain the congressional power to do something about a Trump regime I am seeing as an increasing inevitability. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I'm still terrified, but I think the chances are better than the media is portraying currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget that the media's main goal is profit. How can they make sure to make more and more profit? By constantly showing you stuff that keeps you in fear and in turn makes you want to know everything that's happening. The only way to know the current events? Watch our media segments, read our newspaper, read our website etc. (also see 24/7 news cycle) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't get me wrong, I'm still terrified, but I think the chances are better than the media is portraying currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget that the media's main goal is profit. How can they make sure to make more and more profit? By constantly showing you stuff that keeps you in fear and in turn makes you want to know everything that's happening. The only way to know the current events? Watch our media segments, read our newspaper, read our website etc. (also see 24/7 news cycle) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] weeahnn@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Don't forget that the media's main goal is profit. How can they make sure to make more and more profit? By constantly showing you stuff that keeps you in fear and in turn makes you want to know everything that's happening. The only way to know the current events? Watch our media segments, read our newspaper, read our website etc. (also see 24/7 news cycle) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago What you said is true and in addition to that we should consider that the responsible thing to do in the face of fascism is raise the alarm. Not crying panic over far right politicians and their nightmare policy fantasies would just normalize them and help bring those nightmares about. So while there is a fairly typical “follow the money” argument to be made here, alarmism over fascist ideologies is also just good activism and responsible citizenry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago "The French are socialist cowards who don't know shit but actually get off their asses to protest...." -- 'Muricans permalink fedilink source parent