▲ 481 ▼ FCC chair: Speed standard of 25Mbps down, 3Mbps up isn’t good enough anymore (arstechnica.com) submitted 3 years ago by BrikoX@lemmy.zip to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 96 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] wsweg@lemmy.world 29 points 3 years ago (3 children) What? That’s plenty for the average person. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] McBinary@kbin.social 30 points 3 years ago (3 children) I think person* is the keyword here. Many families have several people concurrently watching streaming video, listening to music, and playing games that are required to have an internet connection. 100Mbps is not enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] skwerls@waveform.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Streaming music is a very negligible impact. We've had streaming music for 2 decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 8 points 3 years ago* Yeah that one bothers me... The most demanding MP3s are what... 320kbps? That's 3.3GB per day. That is not really a hard demand on bandwidth at all. 100GB/month. And that's the max bitrate MP3 does... Most services are probably doing 128kbps... Spotify has an Audio quality table on their site... https://support.spotify.com/us/article/audio-quality/ Low = 24kbps, 0.2471923828 GB/day Normal = 96 kbps, 0.9887695313 GB/day High = 160 kbps, 1.6479492188 GB/day Very High = 320 Kbps, 3.2958984375 GB/day These are very reasonable and easy numbers to obtain on just about any internet connection. The only way this is an "issue" is if you're running like a couple hundred streams at once. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wsweg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Right, but this is about setting a minimum standard for it to be classified as broadband. For an average individual 100Mbps is high speed internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago And most families probably have cheap wifi routers with poor snr as their main bottleneck. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I would like to disagree, since every "news" site started adding auto playing videos and ads on each and every page. what should be a 2kB text now comes with a 50MB video Download... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago get yourself a good adblocker (ublock origin) Block autoplay by default (firefox has had this for years, chromium just added it) start deliberately avoiding such sites when you can permalink fedilink source parent [–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's like two people streaming high def TV at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) No way, that would be 6.25 MB/s for tv. For a two hour movie that would be 50GB. Is a 4k movie really 50GB? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Depends on the quality. YouTube 4k is about 25mbit/s, so that's 3-4 4k YouTube videos playing at the same time on a 100Mb/s connection. 4k Blu-Rays OTOH can be about 50GB or larger even. You wouldn't ordinarily stream that but you could stream one or two blu-rays with a 100Mb/s connection. 100Mbit/s is plenty for current use-cases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 3 years ago Is a 4k movie really 50GB? I have a number of movies (about 100-ish titles) in my library that are well above 50Mbps. Back to the future (1989) as an example is 72.24 GB in my library. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] McBinary@kbin.social 30 points 3 years ago (3 children) I think person* is the keyword here. Many families have several people concurrently watching streaming video, listening to music, and playing games that are required to have an internet connection. 100Mbps is not enough. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] skwerls@waveform.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Streaming music is a very negligible impact. We've had streaming music for 2 decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 8 points 3 years ago* Yeah that one bothers me... The most demanding MP3s are what... 320kbps? That's 3.3GB per day. That is not really a hard demand on bandwidth at all. 100GB/month. And that's the max bitrate MP3 does... Most services are probably doing 128kbps... Spotify has an Audio quality table on their site... https://support.spotify.com/us/article/audio-quality/ Low = 24kbps, 0.2471923828 GB/day Normal = 96 kbps, 0.9887695313 GB/day High = 160 kbps, 1.6479492188 GB/day Very High = 320 Kbps, 3.2958984375 GB/day These are very reasonable and easy numbers to obtain on just about any internet connection. The only way this is an "issue" is if you're running like a couple hundred streams at once. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wsweg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Right, but this is about setting a minimum standard for it to be classified as broadband. For an average individual 100Mbps is high speed internet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago And most families probably have cheap wifi routers with poor snr as their main bottleneck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skwerls@waveform.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) Streaming music is a very negligible impact. We've had streaming music for 2 decades. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 8 points 3 years ago* Yeah that one bothers me... The most demanding MP3s are what... 320kbps? That's 3.3GB per day. That is not really a hard demand on bandwidth at all. 100GB/month. And that's the max bitrate MP3 does... Most services are probably doing 128kbps... Spotify has an Audio quality table on their site... https://support.spotify.com/us/article/audio-quality/ Low = 24kbps, 0.2471923828 GB/day Normal = 96 kbps, 0.9887695313 GB/day High = 160 kbps, 1.6479492188 GB/day Very High = 320 Kbps, 3.2958984375 GB/day These are very reasonable and easy numbers to obtain on just about any internet connection. The only way this is an "issue" is if you're running like a couple hundred streams at once. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 8 points 3 years ago* Yeah that one bothers me... The most demanding MP3s are what... 320kbps? That's 3.3GB per day. That is not really a hard demand on bandwidth at all. 100GB/month. And that's the max bitrate MP3 does... Most services are probably doing 128kbps... Spotify has an Audio quality table on their site... https://support.spotify.com/us/article/audio-quality/ Low = 24kbps, 0.2471923828 GB/day Normal = 96 kbps, 0.9887695313 GB/day High = 160 kbps, 1.6479492188 GB/day Very High = 320 Kbps, 3.2958984375 GB/day These are very reasonable and easy numbers to obtain on just about any internet connection. The only way this is an "issue" is if you're running like a couple hundred streams at once. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wsweg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago Right, but this is about setting a minimum standard for it to be classified as broadband. For an average individual 100Mbps is high speed internet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago And most families probably have cheap wifi routers with poor snr as their main bottleneck. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) I would like to disagree, since every "news" site started adding auto playing videos and ads on each and every page. what should be a 2kB text now comes with a 50MB video Download... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago get yourself a good adblocker (ublock origin) Block autoplay by default (firefox has had this for years, chromium just added it) start deliberately avoiding such sites when you can permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago get yourself a good adblocker (ublock origin) Block autoplay by default (firefox has had this for years, chromium just added it) start deliberately avoiding such sites when you can permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) That's like two people streaming high def TV at the same time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) No way, that would be 6.25 MB/s for tv. For a two hour movie that would be 50GB. Is a 4k movie really 50GB? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Depends on the quality. YouTube 4k is about 25mbit/s, so that's 3-4 4k YouTube videos playing at the same time on a 100Mb/s connection. 4k Blu-Rays OTOH can be about 50GB or larger even. You wouldn't ordinarily stream that but you could stream one or two blu-rays with a 100Mb/s connection. 100Mbit/s is plenty for current use-cases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 3 years ago Is a 4k movie really 50GB? I have a number of movies (about 100-ish titles) in my library that are well above 50Mbps. Back to the future (1989) as an example is 72.24 GB in my library. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago (2 children) No way, that would be 6.25 MB/s for tv. For a two hour movie that would be 50GB. Is a 4k movie really 50GB? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Depends on the quality. YouTube 4k is about 25mbit/s, so that's 3-4 4k YouTube videos playing at the same time on a 100Mb/s connection. 4k Blu-Rays OTOH can be about 50GB or larger even. You wouldn't ordinarily stream that but you could stream one or two blu-rays with a 100Mb/s connection. 100Mbit/s is plenty for current use-cases. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 3 years ago Is a 4k movie really 50GB? I have a number of movies (about 100-ish titles) in my library that are well above 50Mbps. Back to the future (1989) as an example is 72.24 GB in my library. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 years ago Depends on the quality. YouTube 4k is about 25mbit/s, so that's 3-4 4k YouTube videos playing at the same time on a 100Mb/s connection. 4k Blu-Rays OTOH can be about 50GB or larger even. You wouldn't ordinarily stream that but you could stream one or two blu-rays with a 100Mb/s connection. 100Mbit/s is plenty for current use-cases. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 3 years ago Is a 4k movie really 50GB? I have a number of movies (about 100-ish titles) in my library that are well above 50Mbps. Back to the future (1989) as an example is 72.24 GB in my library. permalink fedilink source parent