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Stanford researchers find Mastodon has a massive child abuse material problem (www.theverge.com)
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Not a good look for Mastodon - what can be done to automate the removal of CSAM?

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[–] 149 points 3 years ago (7 children)

Mastodon is a piece of software. I don't see anyone saying "phpBB" or "WordPress" has a massive child abuse material problem.

Has anyone in the history ever said "Not a good look for phpBB"? No. Why? Because it would make no sense whatsoever.

I feel kind of a loss for words because how obvious it should be. It's like saying "paper is being used for illegal material. Not a good look for paper."

What is the solution to someone hosting illegal material on an nginx server? You report it to the authorities. You want to automate it? Go ahead and crawl the web for illegal material and generate automated reports. Though you'll probably be the first to end up in prison.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I get what you're saying, but due to federated nature, those CSAMs can easily spread to many instances without their admins noticing them. Having even one CSAM in your server is a huge risk for the server owner.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I don't see what a server admin can do about it other than defederate the instant they get reports. Otherwise how can they possibly know?

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  • [–] -5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    This could be a really big issue though. People can make instances for really hateful and disgusting crap but even if everyone defederates from them it's still giving them a platform, a tiny tiny corner on the internet to talk about truly horrible topics.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago

    Those corners will exist no matter what service they use and there is nothing Mastodon can do to stop this. There's a reason there are public lists of instances to defederate. This content can only be prevented by domain providers and governments.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Thats a dumb argument, though.

    phpbb is not the host or the provider. Its just something you download and install on your server, with the actual service provider (You, the owner of the server and operator of the phpbb forum) being responsible for its content and curation.

    Mastadon/Twitter/social media is the host/provider/moderator.

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