▲ 1964 ▼ Just a reminder (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 762 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -13 points 2 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] downpunxx@fedia.io 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without a fuckin' doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just chucking fallacies at the wall and seeing what sticks, eh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation is bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) As they say: garbage bad faith in, garbage bad faith out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago another bad faith accusation permalink fedilink source parent [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You can look at the sea of political discussion on social media and see for yourself. I very clearly related my own experience. You don't need to agree with me, and I don't demand that you do. If you don't agree. (and I'm guessing you don't) I doubt very much that any singular example I link is going to change your mind, and I don't care enough about changing it to link a bunch of them for you. I frankly don't know how it's possible to engage in these sorts of discussions online and not observe this exact phenomenon, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children) my guess is that no one has ever said "both sides are bad. i hope by spreading this message, voter turnout is supressed." if such a thing has happened, it's not on me to provide evidence to support your claim. i simply disbelieve your claim, and will not believe it unless i have evidence to the contrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm OK with that. Also, those weren't my words. Good day to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago you didn't actually make a specific claim about what was said. i would take any evidence that supports your claim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is what you're guilty of invincible ignorance fallacy, or better yet, the argument by pigheadedness. the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, anecdotal, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objections fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago no evidence has been given permalink fedilink source parent
[+] downpunxx@fedia.io 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without a fuckin' doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just chucking fallacies at the wall and seeing what sticks, eh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation is bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) As they say: garbage bad faith in, garbage bad faith out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago another bad faith accusation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) Without a fuckin' doubt. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just chucking fallacies at the wall and seeing what sticks, eh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just chucking fallacies at the wall and seeing what sticks, eh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Just chucking fallacies at the wall and seeing what sticks, eh? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -7 points 2 years ago (1 child) well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me. as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I broke the bot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -6 points 2 years ago (1 child) jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* Keep victimizing yourself. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (1 child) your accusation is bad faith. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) As they say: garbage bad faith in, garbage bad faith out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago another bad faith accusation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) As they say: garbage bad faith in, garbage bad faith out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago another bad faith accusation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago another bad faith accusation permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) You can look at the sea of political discussion on social media and see for yourself. I very clearly related my own experience. You don't need to agree with me, and I don't demand that you do. If you don't agree. (and I'm guessing you don't) I doubt very much that any singular example I link is going to change your mind, and I don't care enough about changing it to link a bunch of them for you. I frankly don't know how it's possible to engage in these sorts of discussions online and not observe this exact phenomenon, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children) my guess is that no one has ever said "both sides are bad. i hope by spreading this message, voter turnout is supressed." if such a thing has happened, it's not on me to provide evidence to support your claim. i simply disbelieve your claim, and will not believe it unless i have evidence to the contrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm OK with that. Also, those weren't my words. Good day to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago you didn't actually make a specific claim about what was said. i would take any evidence that supports your claim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is what you're guilty of invincible ignorance fallacy, or better yet, the argument by pigheadedness. the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, anecdotal, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objections fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago no evidence has been given permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (2 children) my guess is that no one has ever said "both sides are bad. i hope by spreading this message, voter turnout is supressed." if such a thing has happened, it's not on me to provide evidence to support your claim. i simply disbelieve your claim, and will not believe it unless i have evidence to the contrary. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm OK with that. Also, those weren't my words. Good day to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago you didn't actually make a specific claim about what was said. i would take any evidence that supports your claim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is what you're guilty of invincible ignorance fallacy, or better yet, the argument by pigheadedness. the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, anecdotal, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objections fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago no evidence has been given permalink fedilink source parent
[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'm OK with that. Also, those weren't my words. Good day to you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago you didn't actually make a specific claim about what was said. i would take any evidence that supports your claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago you didn't actually make a specific claim about what was said. i would take any evidence that supports your claim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StinkyOnions@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) This is what you're guilty of invincible ignorance fallacy, or better yet, the argument by pigheadedness. the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It is not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue in the proper sense of the word. The method used in this fallacy is either to make assertions with no consideration of objections or to simply dismiss objections by calling them excuses, conjecture, anecdotal, etc. or saying that they are proof of nothing, all without actually demonstrating how the objections fit these terms. It is similar to the ad lapidem fallacy, in which the person rejects all the evidence and logic presented, without providing any evidence or logic that could lead to a different conclusion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago no evidence has been given permalink fedilink source parent
[+] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago no evidence has been given permalink fedilink source parent