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Carbon Capture Will Extend Oil Production by 84 Years, Industry Study Finds (www.desmog.com)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There's no reason to extend use of oil by 84 years. There are strong reasons to terminate its use as soon as we can.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Opinions such as this simply don't understand that "oil and gas" isn't just "fuel".

There isn't any component of modern life that wasn't created with at least some level of a petroleum based product.

That "electric car" we rave about? Its tires are rubber. Its moving parts are lubricated. Its wires are sheathed and grounded by plastic. Its faux leather or nylon interior is petroleum based. Same thing if you ride a bike.

If we go into your house, Anything you own that has any amount of rubber, or plastic, or half a thousand other materials is petroleum based.

Getting rid of oil isn't nearly as simple nor as quick a process as opinions like this seem to want.

Yes, oil needs to be phased out. But it's a hell of a lot more complicated than hippies think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

You are right, but to be fair most things that are petroleum based are made with it because of economic reasons. Many things don't need to be it's just cheaper that they are. That's because of a combination of factors. If tomorrow every oil field in the world disappeared we would see alternatives for almost everything almost instantly because there would be huge financial incentive for it and many of those things already exist, they just have to compete with a very established and subsidized raw material