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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (16 children)

Even if Jellico was right about it being a superior system, he was still being a shit leader.

You don't come into a management position and instantly change everything up. You start by learning how things have been going with your staff and setting up a series of changes, with adequate forewarning, for them to adjust to reasonably.

You sure as hell don't come into a situation that's tense with time pressures, emotional pressures, legitimate causes to fear for their lives, etc, and then force a wide array of changes onto your staff.

Even if the 4-shift thing is unquestionably superior (and let's assume it is, ignoring the Bajor comments people are making) - it's still a stupid as fuck thing to do, under the circumstances.

Especially considering all the other changes and pressures he was adding on, all at the last minute, before a major battle.

Engine overhaul, protocol changes, shift changes, multi-day extreme overtime, on a staff that's emotionally distressed right before their lives will be put at severe risk?

He's an absolutely terrible captain and a disgrace to Starfleet. His bullshit would have endangered everyone's lives for no good reason, had he not been damned lucky that the battle never came.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (14 children)

Yeah, that’s not how the military works at all. Maybe in business management, but not military. People seem to forget Starfleet is just that. The commander has a philosophy (that they will often draft a letter about when they assume command) and the unit adapts to it. People used to that are a little more understanding of Jellico and recognize that dread the enterprise crew had when they realized how good they had it under Picard.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (6 children)

People acting like Picard ran a tight ship are just deluding themselves. If Picard ran his ship half as well as, say, a modern air craft carrier then there would be no show. It'd be boring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I really wish to see more accurate depictions of military life. Strangely competent in some areas but at the same time mundane incompetence everywhere.

It would probably be boring though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that basically what Lower Decks is?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it? Haven't watched it yet unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

It's basically a workplace comedy, and one of the focuses of the show is how bad Starfleet is about making sure their strange new worlds are getting on okay a couple decades after first contact. The crew of the Cerritos are simultaneously Starfleet's best, and an absolute embarrassment lol

It's a fantastic show, that really gets the soul of Star Trek. You should check it out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Stargate and Battlestar Galactica are closer to reality in that sense. BSG in particular.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

It would just be people driving

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