▲ 817 ▼ Roses are red, violets are blue, everyone is using IPv6, why aren't you? (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago* by carrylex@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 228 comments fedilink hide all child comments Context: People have been asking for IPv6 Support on GitHub since years (probably a decade by now) ... and someone even got so annoyed that they decided to setup a dedicated website for checking this: https://isgithubipv6.live/
[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 40 points 2 years ago (17 children) My ISP doesn't provide an IPv6 connection. permalink fedilink source hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) Mine provides a connection, but doesn’t expose ports on v6. So I can access v6 services but can’t self-host any. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Huh? With IPv6 you get your own IP address, the ISP doesn't need to know shit about ports. Your address is not behind a NAT anymore, and ports don't need to be forwarded. Perhaps you mean the ISP set up a firewall that blocks incoming connections? In which case, maybe you can have that firewall disabled? ISP firewalls and "safe browsing" packages are always shit. To be honest though there might be some aspect to this I don't know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago Honestly, I was there the first time round, when everyone raw dogged the internet on a single modem per PC. I remember Blaster, and talking people through removing it in 60 second bursts as their PCs shut down over and over. It was carnage. The average user doesn't need open ports on the internet, and they'll only get their elderly machines infected instantly if they did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No option to disable… that I found, that is. permalink fedilink source parent [+] cellardoor@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (12 children) Time to shift providers. Vote with your wallet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not always possible. In Spain IPv6 adoption is at like 5%. There's literally no ISP that offers it. I don't even know how that 5% got it, maybe special deals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes just had a look, according to Google countrywide it's 10%. Very low, sadly. Neighboring France at 74% IPv6. Interesting to see the difference even with neighbouring countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (7 children) You have more than one provider in your area? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, in the UK we have very strict rules around competition law and broadband access. Here, fibre businesses lay fibre to premises (and are paid to do so). Then, a customer can order from any number of broadband providers, and the company who originally laid the fibre lease that line out at wholesale prices. The broadband operator runs 'over the top' of whoever installed the fibre. That way, the fibre installer makes money over time, gently and progressively. All broadband companies and smaller 'Alt-Nets' as we call them, have an equal opportunity to a customer base. Finally the customer has the choice to find services matching their needs and price points. Pay a lot get a lot, pay less get less. I think I have a choice of 6. Names which come to mind are EE, Vodafone, Virgin, Trooli, Cuckoo and Orange. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago Meanwhile, in the US, the government paid ISPs for fiber to be ran and they just pocketed it instead. Now we've got smaller companies running fiber and charging less for synchronous gigabit than you'd pay for copper 500mb down 5mb up, and ISPs are panicking a bit. All the fiber maps have big empty zones where apartment complexes are, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Here in Greece, we have three providers, but I don't want to change, since we pay very little money to the one I am in right now in return of slower speeds (5 Mbps download, 0.5 Upload). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) 5Mbps? OMG... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago While I agree that it's awfully low nowadays, kudos to them if they know that's all they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh no, a cheap offer! 🙀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago move providers? Where, to who? There is currently one provider where i live, soon potentially to be two. Though it's not finalized yet, nor constructed, so for all intents and purposes, it's just the one provider. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago As soon as fiber covers the final < 0.5% of my city with fiber (🤞 but I doubt it will happen) I'll switch off of cable. Until then I can use cable with one provider or DSL with another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 years ago (3 children) Mine provides a connection, but doesn’t expose ports on v6. So I can access v6 services but can’t self-host any. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Huh? With IPv6 you get your own IP address, the ISP doesn't need to know shit about ports. Your address is not behind a NAT anymore, and ports don't need to be forwarded. Perhaps you mean the ISP set up a firewall that blocks incoming connections? In which case, maybe you can have that firewall disabled? ISP firewalls and "safe browsing" packages are always shit. To be honest though there might be some aspect to this I don't know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago Honestly, I was there the first time round, when everyone raw dogged the internet on a single modem per PC. I remember Blaster, and talking people through removing it in 60 second bursts as their PCs shut down over and over. It was carnage. The average user doesn't need open ports on the internet, and they'll only get their elderly machines infected instantly if they did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No option to disable… that I found, that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (2 children) Huh? With IPv6 you get your own IP address, the ISP doesn't need to know shit about ports. Your address is not behind a NAT anymore, and ports don't need to be forwarded. Perhaps you mean the ISP set up a firewall that blocks incoming connections? In which case, maybe you can have that firewall disabled? ISP firewalls and "safe browsing" packages are always shit. To be honest though there might be some aspect to this I don't know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago Honestly, I was there the first time round, when everyone raw dogged the internet on a single modem per PC. I remember Blaster, and talking people through removing it in 60 second bursts as their PCs shut down over and over. It was carnage. The average user doesn't need open ports on the internet, and they'll only get their elderly machines infected instantly if they did. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No option to disable… that I found, that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 2 years ago Honestly, I was there the first time round, when everyone raw dogged the internet on a single modem per PC. I remember Blaster, and talking people through removing it in 60 second bursts as their PCs shut down over and over. It was carnage. The average user doesn't need open ports on the internet, and they'll only get their elderly machines infected instantly if they did. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago No option to disable… that I found, that is. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] cellardoor@lemmy.world -12 points 2 years ago (12 children) Time to shift providers. Vote with your wallet permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not always possible. In Spain IPv6 adoption is at like 5%. There's literally no ISP that offers it. I don't even know how that 5% got it, maybe special deals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes just had a look, according to Google countrywide it's 10%. Very low, sadly. Neighboring France at 74% IPv6. Interesting to see the difference even with neighbouring countries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (7 children) You have more than one provider in your area? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, in the UK we have very strict rules around competition law and broadband access. Here, fibre businesses lay fibre to premises (and are paid to do so). Then, a customer can order from any number of broadband providers, and the company who originally laid the fibre lease that line out at wholesale prices. The broadband operator runs 'over the top' of whoever installed the fibre. That way, the fibre installer makes money over time, gently and progressively. All broadband companies and smaller 'Alt-Nets' as we call them, have an equal opportunity to a customer base. Finally the customer has the choice to find services matching their needs and price points. Pay a lot get a lot, pay less get less. I think I have a choice of 6. Names which come to mind are EE, Vodafone, Virgin, Trooli, Cuckoo and Orange. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago Meanwhile, in the US, the government paid ISPs for fiber to be ran and they just pocketed it instead. Now we've got smaller companies running fiber and charging less for synchronous gigabit than you'd pay for copper 500mb down 5mb up, and ISPs are panicking a bit. All the fiber maps have big empty zones where apartment complexes are, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Here in Greece, we have three providers, but I don't want to change, since we pay very little money to the one I am in right now in return of slower speeds (5 Mbps download, 0.5 Upload). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) 5Mbps? OMG... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago While I agree that it's awfully low nowadays, kudos to them if they know that's all they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh no, a cheap offer! 🙀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago move providers? Where, to who? There is currently one provider where i live, soon potentially to be two. Though it's not finalized yet, nor constructed, so for all intents and purposes, it's just the one provider. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago As soon as fiber covers the final < 0.5% of my city with fiber (🤞 but I doubt it will happen) I'll switch off of cable. Until then I can use cable with one provider or DSL with another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not always possible. In Spain IPv6 adoption is at like 5%. There's literally no ISP that offers it. I don't even know how that 5% got it, maybe special deals. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes just had a look, according to Google countrywide it's 10%. Very low, sadly. Neighboring France at 74% IPv6. Interesting to see the difference even with neighbouring countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes just had a look, according to Google countrywide it's 10%. Very low, sadly. Neighboring France at 74% IPv6. Interesting to see the difference even with neighbouring countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (7 children) You have more than one provider in your area? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, in the UK we have very strict rules around competition law and broadband access. Here, fibre businesses lay fibre to premises (and are paid to do so). Then, a customer can order from any number of broadband providers, and the company who originally laid the fibre lease that line out at wholesale prices. The broadband operator runs 'over the top' of whoever installed the fibre. That way, the fibre installer makes money over time, gently and progressively. All broadband companies and smaller 'Alt-Nets' as we call them, have an equal opportunity to a customer base. Finally the customer has the choice to find services matching their needs and price points. Pay a lot get a lot, pay less get less. I think I have a choice of 6. Names which come to mind are EE, Vodafone, Virgin, Trooli, Cuckoo and Orange. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago Meanwhile, in the US, the government paid ISPs for fiber to be ran and they just pocketed it instead. Now we've got smaller companies running fiber and charging less for synchronous gigabit than you'd pay for copper 500mb down 5mb up, and ISPs are panicking a bit. All the fiber maps have big empty zones where apartment complexes are, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Here in Greece, we have three providers, but I don't want to change, since we pay very little money to the one I am in right now in return of slower speeds (5 Mbps download, 0.5 Upload). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) 5Mbps? OMG... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago While I agree that it's awfully low nowadays, kudos to them if they know that's all they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh no, a cheap offer! 🙀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sure, in the UK we have very strict rules around competition law and broadband access. Here, fibre businesses lay fibre to premises (and are paid to do so). Then, a customer can order from any number of broadband providers, and the company who originally laid the fibre lease that line out at wholesale prices. The broadband operator runs 'over the top' of whoever installed the fibre. That way, the fibre installer makes money over time, gently and progressively. All broadband companies and smaller 'Alt-Nets' as we call them, have an equal opportunity to a customer base. Finally the customer has the choice to find services matching their needs and price points. Pay a lot get a lot, pay less get less. I think I have a choice of 6. Names which come to mind are EE, Vodafone, Virgin, Trooli, Cuckoo and Orange. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago Meanwhile, in the US, the government paid ISPs for fiber to be ran and they just pocketed it instead. Now we've got smaller companies running fiber and charging less for synchronous gigabit than you'd pay for copper 500mb down 5mb up, and ISPs are panicking a bit. All the fiber maps have big empty zones where apartment complexes are, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago Meanwhile, in the US, the government paid ISPs for fiber to be ran and they just pocketed it instead. Now we've got smaller companies running fiber and charging less for synchronous gigabit than you'd pay for copper 500mb down 5mb up, and ISPs are panicking a bit. All the fiber maps have big empty zones where apartment complexes are, sadly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 5 points 2 years ago (4 children) Here in Greece, we have three providers, but I don't want to change, since we pay very little money to the one I am in right now in return of slower speeds (5 Mbps download, 0.5 Upload). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) 5Mbps? OMG... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago While I agree that it's awfully low nowadays, kudos to them if they know that's all they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh no, a cheap offer! 🙀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aux@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children) 5Mbps? OMG... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago While I agree that it's awfully low nowadays, kudos to them if they know that's all they need. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh no, a cheap offer! 🙀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago While I agree that it's awfully low nowadays, kudos to them if they know that's all they need. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Oh no, a cheap offer! 🙀 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago 5 Mbps is slow enough that it should be considered a free tier, like, basic service for being alive tier. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago move providers? Where, to who? There is currently one provider where i live, soon potentially to be two. Though it's not finalized yet, nor constructed, so for all intents and purposes, it's just the one provider. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago As soon as fiber covers the final < 0.5% of my city with fiber (🤞 but I doubt it will happen) I'll switch off of cable. Until then I can use cable with one provider or DSL with another. permalink fedilink source parent