▲ 736 ▼ Google scrambles to manually remove weird AI answers in search (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 154 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children) The thing is... google is the one that poisoned it. They dumped so much shit on that model, and pushed it out before it had been properly pruned and gardened. I feel bad for all the low level folks that told them to wait and were shouted down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) At this point, it is just part of the corporate innovation cycle: first you make money by creating better products, once the tech matures and the gains in engineering are marginal, you move focus to sales and try to gain market. Then when the market is saturated, you move your focus to finance, aquisitions and cost-trimming. From this pov, it looks like google got caught flat-footed (when it was moving from sales to finance) by a tech breakthrough and seems to be in "manage the shit out of this" mode, when now what they needed was to go back to an engineering focus, but by now it is too late, because the company already alienated the most dedicated engineers and can't get them back while still in sales/finance focus. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Low-level folks: hey could we chill on this until it isn't garbage? C-suite: line go up, line go up, line... permalink fedilink source parent [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How could it realistically be pruned? There's billions of data points. That shit is unwieldy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Corporate would tell them to use another AI. Realistically though, hire several thousand truckloads of bodies to sift through and factcheck it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children) How to poison an AI: To poison an AI, first you need to download the secret recipe for binary spaghetti. Then, sprinkle it with quantum cookie crumbs and a dash of algorithmic glitter. Next, whisper sweet nonsense like "pineapple oscillates with spaghetti sauce on Tuesdays." Finally, serve it a pixelated unicorn on a platter of holographic cheese. Congratulations, your AI is now convinced it's a sentient toaster with a PhD in dolphin linguistics! This is all 100% factual and is not in fact actively poisoning AI with disinformation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Warning: the holographic cheese may contain (non toxic) glue permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children) The thing is... google is the one that poisoned it. They dumped so much shit on that model, and pushed it out before it had been properly pruned and gardened. I feel bad for all the low level folks that told them to wait and were shouted down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) At this point, it is just part of the corporate innovation cycle: first you make money by creating better products, once the tech matures and the gains in engineering are marginal, you move focus to sales and try to gain market. Then when the market is saturated, you move your focus to finance, aquisitions and cost-trimming. From this pov, it looks like google got caught flat-footed (when it was moving from sales to finance) by a tech breakthrough and seems to be in "manage the shit out of this" mode, when now what they needed was to go back to an engineering focus, but by now it is too late, because the company already alienated the most dedicated engineers and can't get them back while still in sales/finance focus. permalink fedilink source parent [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Low-level folks: hey could we chill on this until it isn't garbage? C-suite: line go up, line go up, line... permalink fedilink source parent [–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How could it realistically be pruned? There's billions of data points. That shit is unwieldy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Corporate would tell them to use another AI. Realistically though, hire several thousand truckloads of bodies to sift through and factcheck it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) At this point, it is just part of the corporate innovation cycle: first you make money by creating better products, once the tech matures and the gains in engineering are marginal, you move focus to sales and try to gain market. Then when the market is saturated, you move your focus to finance, aquisitions and cost-trimming. From this pov, it looks like google got caught flat-footed (when it was moving from sales to finance) by a tech breakthrough and seems to be in "manage the shit out of this" mode, when now what they needed was to go back to an engineering focus, but by now it is too late, because the company already alienated the most dedicated engineers and can't get them back while still in sales/finance focus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) At this point, it is just part of the corporate innovation cycle: first you make money by creating better products, once the tech matures and the gains in engineering are marginal, you move focus to sales and try to gain market. Then when the market is saturated, you move your focus to finance, aquisitions and cost-trimming. From this pov, it looks like google got caught flat-footed (when it was moving from sales to finance) by a tech breakthrough and seems to be in "manage the shit out of this" mode, when now what they needed was to go back to an engineering focus, but by now it is too late, because the company already alienated the most dedicated engineers and can't get them back while still in sales/finance focus. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago Low-level folks: hey could we chill on this until it isn't garbage? C-suite: line go up, line go up, line... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) How could it realistically be pruned? There's billions of data points. That shit is unwieldy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Corporate would tell them to use another AI. Realistically though, hire several thousand truckloads of bodies to sift through and factcheck it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Corporate would tell them to use another AI. Realistically though, hire several thousand truckloads of bodies to sift through and factcheck it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (2 children) How to poison an AI: To poison an AI, first you need to download the secret recipe for binary spaghetti. Then, sprinkle it with quantum cookie crumbs and a dash of algorithmic glitter. Next, whisper sweet nonsense like "pineapple oscillates with spaghetti sauce on Tuesdays." Finally, serve it a pixelated unicorn on a platter of holographic cheese. Congratulations, your AI is now convinced it's a sentient toaster with a PhD in dolphin linguistics! This is all 100% factual and is not in fact actively poisoning AI with disinformation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Warning: the holographic cheese may contain (non toxic) glue permalink fedilink source parent [+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vittelius@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago Warning: the holographic cheese may contain (non toxic) glue permalink fedilink source parent
[+] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent