▲ 1376 ▼ Reddit Admin team asking for volunteer moderators at tons of subreddits (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by spiritedpause@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world 241 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world 124 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 56 points 3 years ago (2 children) No, more fun- Apply as a moderator. Make subreddit private again. Repeat if you don't get banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I'd be very surprised if the admins DON'T have a Richard Nixonesque "enemies list" that they check before letting new mods join the team. that level of control-freakishness and pettiness is right up their alley. Edit: missed a word. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is the best way because minimal risk and effort for you, and you can always say you didn't have access to automated tools to do moderation, which is true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) What risk? They take away the mod position you didn't really want in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -29 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) The risk is that they start suing users that act malicious, and this can't be seen as malicious just incompetent. Edit: I don't see users doing nothing as malicious. I'm talking about the one's breaking stuff being sued. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Suing unpaid volunteers for not working hard enough? Not a lawyer, but surely you can't use sue an employee for not working hard enough. Just do a really poor job, don't moderate well. What are they going to argue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) No they will sue the malicious ones not the ones doing nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent [–] quantumoverdrive@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children) sue em back if thats the way the wanna play it i think its high time we got the aclu involved if they seem to think their content is theirs--- is an image microsofts etc cuz you used one of their programs to draw it? id say it falls more on the previous mods etc is the way to argue this in court now that i think about it why arent people trying to sue reddit more for billions? futhermore i think they are hiding stuff on their end to investors i think its time the sec got wind of this im a counterpuncher and i dont stop until the enemy is doa thats my mentality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Not a bad idea, it requires some organisation and money, it could be done, I'm not sure about this having a legal foot to stand on but someone will know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* If you’re talking about suing Reddit for copyright/intellectual property law infringement, unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen. Reddit can claim certain rights over user content because it’s not against the law to sign over those rights through a user agreement. It’s a bad idea, but it is likely to be considered legally binding. The “right to be forgotten” under GDPR is a specific form of control of content that can’t be signed away, but it’s not about copyright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah. That will go over great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Yeah talk about dumpster fire if they start on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How could they possibly sue moderators? They're all anonymous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That depends on how much each person has protected themselves, in their Reddit account if they use their primary email and have linked Facebook or stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago This is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 56 points 3 years ago (2 children) No, more fun- Apply as a moderator. Make subreddit private again. Repeat if you don't get banned. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I'd be very surprised if the admins DON'T have a Richard Nixonesque "enemies list" that they check before letting new mods join the team. that level of control-freakishness and pettiness is right up their alley. Edit: missed a word. permalink fedilink source parent [+] AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) I'd be very surprised if the admins DON'T have a Richard Nixonesque "enemies list" that they check before letting new mods join the team. that level of control-freakishness and pettiness is right up their alley. Edit: missed a word. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] AccidentalLemming@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is the best way because minimal risk and effort for you, and you can always say you didn't have access to automated tools to do moderation, which is true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) What risk? They take away the mod position you didn't really want in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -29 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) The risk is that they start suing users that act malicious, and this can't be seen as malicious just incompetent. Edit: I don't see users doing nothing as malicious. I'm talking about the one's breaking stuff being sued. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Suing unpaid volunteers for not working hard enough? Not a lawyer, but surely you can't use sue an employee for not working hard enough. Just do a really poor job, don't moderate well. What are they going to argue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) No they will sue the malicious ones not the ones doing nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent [–] quantumoverdrive@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children) sue em back if thats the way the wanna play it i think its high time we got the aclu involved if they seem to think their content is theirs--- is an image microsofts etc cuz you used one of their programs to draw it? id say it falls more on the previous mods etc is the way to argue this in court now that i think about it why arent people trying to sue reddit more for billions? futhermore i think they are hiding stuff on their end to investors i think its time the sec got wind of this im a counterpuncher and i dont stop until the enemy is doa thats my mentality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Not a bad idea, it requires some organisation and money, it could be done, I'm not sure about this having a legal foot to stand on but someone will know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* If you’re talking about suing Reddit for copyright/intellectual property law infringement, unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen. Reddit can claim certain rights over user content because it’s not against the law to sign over those rights through a user agreement. It’s a bad idea, but it is likely to be considered legally binding. The “right to be forgotten” under GDPR is a specific form of control of content that can’t be signed away, but it’s not about copyright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah. That will go over great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Yeah talk about dumpster fire if they start on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How could they possibly sue moderators? They're all anonymous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That depends on how much each person has protected themselves, in their Reddit account if they use their primary email and have linked Facebook or stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago This is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 years ago (1 child) What risk? They take away the mod position you didn't really want in the first place? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -29 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) The risk is that they start suing users that act malicious, and this can't be seen as malicious just incompetent. Edit: I don't see users doing nothing as malicious. I'm talking about the one's breaking stuff being sued. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Suing unpaid volunteers for not working hard enough? Not a lawyer, but surely you can't use sue an employee for not working hard enough. Just do a really poor job, don't moderate well. What are they going to argue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) No they will sue the malicious ones not the ones doing nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent [–] quantumoverdrive@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children) sue em back if thats the way the wanna play it i think its high time we got the aclu involved if they seem to think their content is theirs--- is an image microsofts etc cuz you used one of their programs to draw it? id say it falls more on the previous mods etc is the way to argue this in court now that i think about it why arent people trying to sue reddit more for billions? futhermore i think they are hiding stuff on their end to investors i think its time the sec got wind of this im a counterpuncher and i dont stop until the enemy is doa thats my mentality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Not a bad idea, it requires some organisation and money, it could be done, I'm not sure about this having a legal foot to stand on but someone will know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* If you’re talking about suing Reddit for copyright/intellectual property law infringement, unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen. Reddit can claim certain rights over user content because it’s not against the law to sign over those rights through a user agreement. It’s a bad idea, but it is likely to be considered legally binding. The “right to be forgotten” under GDPR is a specific form of control of content that can’t be signed away, but it’s not about copyright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah. That will go over great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Yeah talk about dumpster fire if they start on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How could they possibly sue moderators? They're all anonymous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That depends on how much each person has protected themselves, in their Reddit account if they use their primary email and have linked Facebook or stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago This is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -29 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (4 children) The risk is that they start suing users that act malicious, and this can't be seen as malicious just incompetent. Edit: I don't see users doing nothing as malicious. I'm talking about the one's breaking stuff being sued. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Suing unpaid volunteers for not working hard enough? Not a lawyer, but surely you can't use sue an employee for not working hard enough. Just do a really poor job, don't moderate well. What are they going to argue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) No they will sue the malicious ones not the ones doing nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent [–] quantumoverdrive@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children) sue em back if thats the way the wanna play it i think its high time we got the aclu involved if they seem to think their content is theirs--- is an image microsofts etc cuz you used one of their programs to draw it? id say it falls more on the previous mods etc is the way to argue this in court now that i think about it why arent people trying to sue reddit more for billions? futhermore i think they are hiding stuff on their end to investors i think its time the sec got wind of this im a counterpuncher and i dont stop until the enemy is doa thats my mentality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Not a bad idea, it requires some organisation and money, it could be done, I'm not sure about this having a legal foot to stand on but someone will know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* If you’re talking about suing Reddit for copyright/intellectual property law infringement, unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen. Reddit can claim certain rights over user content because it’s not against the law to sign over those rights through a user agreement. It’s a bad idea, but it is likely to be considered legally binding. The “right to be forgotten” under GDPR is a specific form of control of content that can’t be signed away, but it’s not about copyright. permalink fedilink source parent [–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah. That will go over great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Yeah talk about dumpster fire if they start on that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How could they possibly sue moderators? They're all anonymous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That depends on how much each person has protected themselves, in their Reddit account if they use their primary email and have linked Facebook or stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago This is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 31 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) Suing unpaid volunteers for not working hard enough? Not a lawyer, but surely you can't use sue an employee for not working hard enough. Just do a really poor job, don't moderate well. What are they going to argue? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) No they will sue the malicious ones not the ones doing nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca -8 points 3 years ago (1 child) No they will sue the malicious ones not the ones doing nothing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 14 points 3 years ago* (1 child) A lawsuit requires them to be breaking a law. Doing a shit or even malicious job at something you volunteered for is not against the law. Mods are not employees of reddit. If the argument is that they're somehow harming the product, that same argument could be extended to the protestors and shitposters. It wouldn't hold any water in an actual court. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Good for the protesters then, one thing less to worry about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 4 points 3 years ago I don't think anyone ever was lol. If reddit even tried something like that they'd be opening a legal can of worms that would cause them way more harm than good permalink fedilink source parent
[–] quantumoverdrive@lemmy.world 9 points 3 years ago* (2 children) sue em back if thats the way the wanna play it i think its high time we got the aclu involved if they seem to think their content is theirs--- is an image microsofts etc cuz you used one of their programs to draw it? id say it falls more on the previous mods etc is the way to argue this in court now that i think about it why arent people trying to sue reddit more for billions? futhermore i think they are hiding stuff on their end to investors i think its time the sec got wind of this im a counterpuncher and i dont stop until the enemy is doa thats my mentality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Not a bad idea, it requires some organisation and money, it could be done, I'm not sure about this having a legal foot to stand on but someone will know. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* If you’re talking about suing Reddit for copyright/intellectual property law infringement, unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen. Reddit can claim certain rights over user content because it’s not against the law to sign over those rights through a user agreement. It’s a bad idea, but it is likely to be considered legally binding. The “right to be forgotten” under GDPR is a specific form of control of content that can’t be signed away, but it’s not about copyright. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago Not a bad idea, it requires some organisation and money, it could be done, I'm not sure about this having a legal foot to stand on but someone will know. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bozicus@lemmy.one 1 point 3 years ago* If you’re talking about suing Reddit for copyright/intellectual property law infringement, unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen. Reddit can claim certain rights over user content because it’s not against the law to sign over those rights through a user agreement. It’s a bad idea, but it is likely to be considered legally binding. The “right to be forgotten” under GDPR is a specific form of control of content that can’t be signed away, but it’s not about copyright. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh yeah. That will go over great permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Yeah talk about dumpster fire if they start on that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Yeah talk about dumpster fire if they start on that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) How could they possibly sue moderators? They're all anonymous permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That depends on how much each person has protected themselves, in their Reddit account if they use their primary email and have linked Facebook or stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago This is true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) That depends on how much each person has protected themselves, in their Reddit account if they use their primary email and have linked Facebook or stuff like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago This is true. permalink fedilink source parent
