It wasn't actually sane. It was batshit crazy. The headline was really working overtime to tone it down into a rational thought.

“That gets in the whole other idea about religion being as a way to control people, control thought maybe, which is pretty wild. But disclosure, I think needs to happen. It’s going to be interesting to see how it happens, where it happens.

“But in my space where I’m at, where I do a lot of plant medicine, the veils between worlds and dimensions gets very thin. So the idea of seeing other entities, seeing angelic type of beings and demonic type beings is very normal. And the idea that there’s a demonic aspect to the UIP phenomenon, I think is very It’s plausible and interesting.”