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Biden announces 100% tariff on Chinese-made electric vehicles
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Throw another one on the pile of reasons to not support him.
Trump would be no better. If I had to make a rough scorecard it would be Biden 55 and Trump about 4.
The only two people that exist in the world
Welcome to the two-party system. If you’d ever like that to change, you have a better chance of doing that with a democrat majority.
why would I have any chance at all with either of the two parties that are perpetuating it?
Voting
Theres not only two choices
Is germany foolish for having more than two choices?
They had an actual dictator and now theyre putting our democracy to shame. American voters are pathetic
Im well aware of ranked choice voting, the candidate im voting for has it in their campaign platform. It doesnt just manifest out of thin air.
You can vote for me and I wouldn't mess it up as much as Biden or especially Trump. But 2 votes aren't enough to beat millions.
It's sad that you think "Not Biden" defaults to "Trump"
It's sad that for anyone to vote for a candidate in the US it actually is Trump or Biden.
You're welcome to say 3rd party all you want but that 1% of the vote ain't saying much good.
That is 100% the current situation.
Yeah, don’t forget to vote for him though.
yeah I love globalism. its been so great.
Like, I agree, but do you actually think Trump is a better choice?
It's sad that people come out of the woodworks like you only to invoke the orange man whenever somebody says they don't agree with something Biden is doing. I mean, leaving the MAGA crowd out for now... don't you think we can have a better conversation trying to think beyond the next presidential race?
We know there's probably some anti-Biden propaganda around. We get it. How about you assume for one moment that whoever it is you are replying to is actually smart enough to understand what it means to elect Trump and are already aware to vote for Biden in the general election? Why don't you actually address the problems with Biden without comparing him to Trump?
I think supporting someone other than Biden or Trump is a better choice
And if wishes were pennies, we would all be rich.
you wishing for a Biden presidency
Compared to Trump? You’re absolutely freakin right I am
but I cant compare someone else favorably to Trump.
Not really, because unless you can convince a majority of Americans to vote third party, which is unbelievably unlikely, then Biden or Trump are the options. On top of that, when you start pulling left wing votes away from Biden, it makes it easier for Trump to win unless you hit the point of majority support, which is again incredibly unlikely. I wish that weren’t the reality, but that’s how it is currently, and I hella do not want another term of Trump as I believe that’d be genuinely ruinous.
hate self fulfilling prophecies, people act like they dont have free will.
It’s not that I don’t want it to change, it’s that I’m exceedingly doubtful it’ll happen in a single election via a third party unless we get a knight in shining armor that sweeps the voters off their feet. Of the two parties we currently really have a choice between, the Dems are the only one that have a chance of improving the situation, as the republicans are purely regressive. So my hope and what I think is more realistically possible is that they can be a stepping stone towards improving the system in the long run. But if we do get the knight in shining armor that has an actual chance, they’ll get my vote
Do you understand what i mean by self fulfilling prophecy? There is only one thing that is preventing a third party contender from being seen as viable: not being seen as viable. You're never going to get a knight in shining armor that has a chance, because you yourself will make sure no one gets a chance.
Settle down, comrade. You’re not talking me into throwing away my vote by citing my free will lol. The current flavors being sold are vanilla and fascism. Vanilla sounds fine.
how many times have you had to wave away active villainy by comparing him to ice cream?
Whats going on in the actual world is a lot of much more representative governments in other countries, with several political parties elected. Theyve got voters with free will that vote for who they want and theyve got way more progressive policies going as a result.
Are all americans just born with a disability that makes them incapable of voting for someone outside of 2 parties? The other countries are proof of the possibility you insist is impossible. Howd they do it, huh?
We're in the future, we're in a future several decades past people like you saying we have no choice but to vote for one of two people. Why would you think the future would bring change as you fight against any attempt at change? Cant wait for 2040, trump jr vs a banking lobbyist
If we had ranked choice voting, sure. However, in our current two party system with first past the post voting, there are only two choices that actually matter. It fucking sucks.
And they have no reason to change it as long as you fall in line
Im tired of hearing people fight against what they want. You know who supports ranked choice voting? The Green Party candidate for president.
Ah yes, Jill Stein, known to take Russian money. That’ll surely help things.
got a source on that? Or just the usual assumptions
Ive never seen any credible evidence of an actual transfer of funds to Stein from Russia, but there is definitely evidence that they support her in order to siphon votes from the Democratic candidate. U.S. elections affect the entire world and it is no surprise that enemies of the U.S. are going to use every resource they can to alter the results in their favor.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/russians-launched-pro-jill-stein-social-media-blitz-help-trump-n951166
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf
alright, that's all Stein is responsible for. Can we vote for ranked choice now?
Sure but if we fail to succeed, which is highly likely, then we get to plunge the country into fascism, y'all qaeda style sharia law, aiding and abetting Putin, etc. I'm sure you've heard it all though.