▲ 662 ▼ we fell for the corporate propoganda rule (lemmy.cafe) submitted 2 years ago by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago (1 child) -switches to signal or Matrix- permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pkill@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) XMPP is better despite it's flaws privacy-wise, since so much data gets "hogged back" to matrix.org (tbf it's a similar case with lemmy.world but Lemmy at least didn't receive funding from a company most likely linked to Mosad). Also has more lightweight servers in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iltg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago what data gets hogged back? most stuff can be turned off and are features that would be missing anyway from xmpp, like identity servers or integrations server. also you can selfhost your identity server and add integrations manually permalink fedilink source parent [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago Isn't like the entire point of Matrix that it's end to end encrypted, thus rendering any data servers acquire useless? You could make the metadata argument, but having one node aware of even most transactions is better than having one node aware of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pkill@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (2 children) XMPP is better despite it's flaws privacy-wise, since so much data gets "hogged back" to matrix.org (tbf it's a similar case with lemmy.world but Lemmy at least didn't receive funding from a company most likely linked to Mosad). Also has more lightweight servers in general. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] iltg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago what data gets hogged back? most stuff can be turned off and are features that would be missing anyway from xmpp, like identity servers or integrations server. also you can selfhost your identity server and add integrations manually permalink fedilink source parent [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago Isn't like the entire point of Matrix that it's end to end encrypted, thus rendering any data servers acquire useless? You could make the metadata argument, but having one node aware of even most transactions is better than having one node aware of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iltg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago what data gets hogged back? most stuff can be turned off and are features that would be missing anyway from xmpp, like identity servers or integrations server. also you can selfhost your identity server and add integrations manually permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 point 2 years ago Isn't like the entire point of Matrix that it's end to end encrypted, thus rendering any data servers acquire useless? You could make the metadata argument, but having one node aware of even most transactions is better than having one node aware of all of them. permalink fedilink source parent
