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[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was born in America and now am a Canadian citizen. I'm pretty doubtful I'd die for either country unless their motives closely aligned with my personal value. I do regret that you've been downvoted so severely, your general opinion and offer of self-sacrifice is certainly something I've genuinely seen in people before and I think it comes from a noble ideal. The problem, IMO, is that this policy is far too broad and punishing. I much prefer the US approach here which has always been to offer ever increasing carrots - I'm less comfortable using the stick to increase service manpower. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago You called people unreliable citizens for... Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don't want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent [+] redlue@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] fartington@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I was born in America and now am a Canadian citizen. I'm pretty doubtful I'd die for either country unless their motives closely aligned with my personal value. I do regret that you've been downvoted so severely, your general opinion and offer of self-sacrifice is certainly something I've genuinely seen in people before and I think it comes from a noble ideal. The problem, IMO, is that this policy is far too broad and punishing. I much prefer the US approach here which has always been to offer ever increasing carrots - I'm less comfortable using the stick to increase service manpower. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago You called people unreliable citizens for... Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don't want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent [+] redlue@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago You called people unreliable citizens for... Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don't want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent [+] redlue@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago You called people unreliable citizens for... Not wanting to die in a war created by those who will never serve in it. I don't want to fight nor die for arbitrary borders on the whim of whoever is in charge. Killing someone because you were forced to is disgusting. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] redlue@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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