▲ 354 ▼ Framework won’t be just a laptop company anymore (www.theverge.com) submitted 2 years ago by lautan@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world 148 comments fedilink hide all child comments It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 points 2 years ago* (8 children) A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I hear you, but a usb-c has more uses than one, the only real problem with a dongle is now is that occasionally you need to charge. permalink fedilink source parent [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works. Framework also uses a USB-C adapter. It costs 20 Euro: https://frame.work/products/audio-expansion-card permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) That's great! But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. As should everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports. I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bilb@lem.monster -1 points 2 years ago A dongle is a solution to the problem "I want to use my headphones with a device with only a USB-C port." permalink fedilink source parent [–] iopq@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago It's not a work-around, a headphone requires a DAC and an amp. In fact, my phone has a crap DAC causing artifacts in the sound. It's actually not to my benefit to have the jack because I'd get better sound with the external DAC which is transparent. So the jack works, but the DAC you get can be whatever the manufacturer considers good enough. DACs I can hear issues in: My phone, my tablet, my desktop PC DACs that are transparent to me: My laptop, my $12 external DAC permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DrRatso@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago I hear you, but a usb-c has more uses than one, the only real problem with a dongle is now is that occasionally you need to charge. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (4 children) A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works. Framework also uses a USB-C adapter. It costs 20 Euro: https://frame.work/products/audio-expansion-card permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) That's great! But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. As should everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports. I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (3 children) That's great! But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. As should everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports. I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children) But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports. I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports. I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 point 2 years ago Oh, the 13. That's what I was looking at. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bilb@lem.monster -1 points 2 years ago A dongle is a solution to the problem "I want to use my headphones with a device with only a USB-C port." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iopq@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago It's not a work-around, a headphone requires a DAC and an amp. In fact, my phone has a crap DAC causing artifacts in the sound. It's actually not to my benefit to have the jack because I'd get better sound with the external DAC which is transparent. So the jack works, but the DAC you get can be whatever the manufacturer considers good enough. DACs I can hear issues in: My phone, my tablet, my desktop PC DACs that are transparent to me: My laptop, my $12 external DAC permalink fedilink source parent