It started with notebooks, but that wasn’t the master plan.

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[–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

But like, 3.5 to usbc is a 10 buck conversion. Tbh i see merit in double usb c over usbc and headphone jack, might be more doable too, the DAC prolly takes more space than an additional usbc

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    A dongle is a workaround. The headphone jack just works.

    Framework also uses a USB-C adapter. It costs 20 Euro: https://frame.work/products/audio-expansion-card

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's great! But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in. As should everyone.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    But Framework also includes an audio jack built-in.

    Nope, the new 16 inch does not. The older 13 does.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    What?! That's ridiculous. Hotswap ports are great for high throughput devices requiring PCIe lanes, but taking the audio port out gains you literally nothing. There should be some standard ports + hotswappable ports.

    I also wish they could find a way to redesign the Ethernet port with a hinged jaw or something so it isn't so massive, I wouldn't want to leave that plugged in.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    It's not a work-around, a headphone requires a DAC and an amp. In fact, my phone has a crap DAC causing artifacts in the sound. It's actually not to my benefit to have the jack because I'd get better sound with the external DAC which is transparent.

    So the jack works, but the DAC you get can be whatever the manufacturer considers good enough.

    DACs I can hear issues in:

    My phone, my tablet, my desktop PC

    DACs that are transparent to me:

    My laptop, my $12 external DAC

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