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Could it be that some of the protesters are antisemitic and they are using the protest as cover? I don't know that this is the right step to take, but this is really the perfect time for actual bigots to make attacks. It's Israel's fault since they associate themselves with Judaism and they're the ones perpetrating the genocide, but that doesn't change anything.
It's always a risk when ethnic groups are involved in conflicts of any sort and there are protests elsewhere in the world. It gives bigots cover.
Sort of hard to know on an individual level, but it certainly doesn't seem to be a widespread problem. I will say I've encountered it a couple of times on Lemmy in the past few weeks. Thankfully, they were pretty swiftly dealt with by admins.
The protests against Israel are a perfect cover for anti semitic assholes to spread their hate. I live in an area with a large Jewish population. Plenty of anti semitic shit has popped up, the most blatant being swastikas painted outside of Jewish schools with "free gaza" tagged along side it.
I'm actually shocked to have someone say theyve seen no antisemitism in these protests. Do you live in an area with few or no Jewish people?
Considering you avoided my question, I bet it's safe to assume you don't live around many Jewish people.
Can't see things happening at the protests if you don't see the protests at all. Taps forehead
I mean, ffs, even this article is quoting someone from the pro Palestine protests that is trying to distance themselves from the anti semitic outsiders who have latched onto it.
lol "Free Gaza" is not a protest because, well, it was done in graffiti!
You also ignored that, in the article we are responding to, from the mouths of pro-Palenstine protestors, that it is happening.
There is no doubt at this point that the claim of "refrain from being dishonest" was, no surprise, a projection.
False dichotomy and putting words in my mouth. Well played.
Funny, when you accused me earlier of "pivoting," it's like you were warning me that you were going to pivot when the point became untenable.
And you pivot again. If you aren't even going to be honest and admit I said nothing about the protestors "tolerating" anything or that I said anything about their "safety" then it's obvious you aren't debating in goof faith. Again, thanks for the warning by, for no reason, accusing me of being dishonest. I may have missed it otherwise.
No, I'm going to keep pointing out that you are blatantly and patently not debating in good faith. I'm happy to actually stick to the point, but if you are just going to lie about what I said, and make no amends when I correct you, you've made your intentions clear.
So if you want to be honest, feel free. I'll be here.
I was with you until this. Criticizing Israel's government is absolutely legit (and IMO justified at the moment) but criticizing Jews for being Jewish is... weird.
I'm not criticizing Jews for being Jewish. I'm Jewish. What I am not is Israeli, despite them trying to associate me with them.
Gotcha, agreed. To be fair, there is a LOT of antisemitism on the Palestinian/Arab side, so the Israeli govt is not the only one causing this conflation of Israeli policy and Judaism at large.
To be fair, why do you think they're antisemitic? Could it be the years and years of oppression under Israel, who have conflated themselves with Judaism the entire time?
This isn't me saying that antisemitism is good, but the same reason you were confused about the ties between Judaism and Israel (and lack thereof) is probably the same thing going through their heads.
I'm going to assume you mean well, but this is bordering on "She was asking for it, did you see what she was wearing?"