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Amber那篇的叙事有种硬套的感觉，但这篇的op在帖子里的各种回复都轻描淡写地回避了一些东西 in c/trans_zh@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Amber那篇的叙事有种硬套的感觉，但这篇的op在帖子里的各种回复都轻描淡写地回避了一些东西 (thelemmy.club)
 

Amber那篇的叙事有种硬套的感觉，但这篇的op在帖子里的各种回复都轻描淡写地回避了一些东西

试图硬画出一头大象 VS 大象不存在。

但还是感谢两位发声。

https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/s/VkwLUN6J1l

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GrahminRadarin • 17天前 https://www.reddit.com/r/tankiejerk/comments/1wcw0aw/on_the_dire_state_of_trans_rights_in_mainland/ Would you say that this post contains an accurate description of the larger social challenges faced by trans people in China? 赞同 2 反对 回复 奖励 共享 u/x_Raincandy_x 头像 x_Raincandy_x 原发帖人 • 17天前 I don't think it accurately describes the broader experience of trans women in China, although many of the individual problems it mentions are very real and can be severe. I should disclose that I actually know Amber, the author of those slides. She is a very polarizing and charismatic figure in Chinese transfem circles, with both strong supporters and strong critics. I am personally critical of her, but that isn't why I disagree with this post. She has also spent relatively little time in China in recent years and has mostly lived in Canada, which I think matters when presenting something as a general description of life for trans women in China. My main problem is the almost teleological structure of her argument. She takes a number of real but quite different problems and arranges them into a single chain, as if Chinese society and institutions were all moving coherently toward the same anti-trans objective. That just isn't how I experience or understand China. Most people don't even know much about trans people, and a lot of what harms us comes from institutions with much broader purposes or dysfunctions rather than some coherent project against trans people. For example, parental control is a huge problem, including parents sending trans children to conversion institutions. But excessive parental power in China extends far beyond trans people: cishet young people considered rebellious, mentally ill, "internet addicted," or simply unwilling to follow the expected life path have also been forcibly institutionalized. Trans people are particularly vulnerable to this system, but the system wasn't constructed specifically for us. Some of the most serious specifically trans problems are actually much more mundane. Changing your legal sex can change your ID number, while universities may refuse or be unable to update old academic records accordingly. Employers verify education against your ID, so someone can effectively end up with an unusable degree after transitioning. This absurd situation is one reason some Chinese trans women choose to study abroad. SRS is also simply very expensive, while many young trans women have little independent income and may have lost family support. So yes, I would describe the situation of many trans women in China as genuinely bad, sometimes disastrously so. But I don't recognize Amber's picture of a society in which every institution, prejudice and administrative problem forms one coherent machine designed to produce trans suffering. It turns a messy combination of family power, bureaucratic rigidity, economic inequality, ignorance and gender conservatism into a single intentional historical process. Ironically, I think that makes it harder rather than easier to understand what Chinese trans people are actually dealing with.
转X上关于近期les radfem排跨争议的一个thread in c/trans_zh@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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转X上关于近期les radfem排跨争议的一个thread (xcancel.com)
 

转X上关于近期les radfem排跨争议的一个thread

https://xcancel.com/Nevernessian/status/2096917962976563615#m

> 我其实还是想从之前这个话题说起，中国主流les和transfem社群的割裂程度不仅对于西方是不可预想的，在东亚也算得上独一份。原因很大程度上是因为两个社群之间几乎毫无共同的公共行动的经验。但这种缺失其实是很晚才发生的，大概仅仅是十年前，哪怕trans几乎没有可见度的情况下，les社群往往也是会以一种近乎“预留座位”的姿态表达对可能出现的transfem的宽容和隔空的声援——这个阶段的les社群的经验很大程度上是通过其中活跃的知识分子自西方传递而来，所以也原封不动地保留了“我们和其他性少数共享身份和立场”的判断。但是事情在近十年来发生了翻天覆地的变化，Z世代几乎是另起炉灶地形成了一个新的les社群，此前活跃的知识分子由于意识形态的敏感而变得沉寂，或者不被新的世代注意，她们的经验和判断也随之离开了les社群，另一方面，也由于非常特色的新自由主义竞争引爆的性别战争，radfem那种策略性地反思异性恋/生育责任的口号和行动取代了前一世代les社群关于取向平权的表述方式、成为了Z世代les在个体层面意识、接纳自己取向的契机、进而通过这种契机无可替代地和radfem社群发生连接形成了共同经验，于是radfem那种源自新自由主义竞争的“生存空间”的恐跨浪潮也被Z世代的les社群几乎全盘接纳，以至于可以明显看到包容在Z世代les社群中几乎只存在于少数与上一世代/知识分子有联系的部分中了。

> 但是话又说回来，斩钉截铁地说z世代les社群“主流”是排跨的其实并不完全准确，问题在于，国内的环境中并不存在一个可以称为“主流”的les社群分支，这里不仅仅是想说线上和线下的区别，同样还有发达地区和内陆的区别，中产/市民社群和其他社群的区别，青少年/灵活就业等社会隔离严重的社群的区别等，既然我们说les社群的排跨源于它和radfem形成的共同经验，那么我们显然也能很清楚地看到radfem的边界其实就是les社群排跨的边界，在这个边界之外，情况其实仍然是大有不同的。

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QQ群已经开始使用AI审查，目前很多跨性别群组聊到HRT相关内容会出现图示的警告，虽然从文字来看似乎是针对Overdose。猜测四月份跨性别群组被大量封禁与此有关。 (thelemmy.club)
 

QQ群已经开始使用AI审查，目前很多跨性别群组聊到HRT相关内容会出现图示的警告，虽然从文字来看似乎是针对Overdose。猜测四月份跨性别群组被大量封禁与此有关。

@trans_zh

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