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[–] 133 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Man, Proton sure has gone up hill lately.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My issue with them is that they make their lower tier plans too enticing. I've wanted to upgrade to pro for all the fancy gizmos but the basic mail plan is just too good a deal to upgrade.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Unlimited for seven or so years now, never regretted it in the slightest. I feel like they throw some bonus to you whenever they can - under promise, over deliver. I've been burned a lot by companies that became evil over time, hence I'm careful with praise but so far Proton has been one of the most pleasant customer experiences I had.

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago (17 children)

    I still remember how ludicrous it was when Gmail offered 1GB for free. What did Hotmail give us? Like 50Mbs?

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I remember when Google offered "unlimited" for free.

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  • [+] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Write your data as base64 string and scroll it star wars intro style. Bam, unlimited storage on Google via YouTube once you write an ocr to base64 decoder.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    im sure there are some image steganography techniques that could also apply to video. i'd be very surprised if there aren't people hiding data in videos already.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I started with Hotmail back when it was 2 mb.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wow. I guess we didn't really send attachments that often back then and 2mb was plenty.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well and the attachments we did send were rarely anywhere close to 2MB. Uploading 2MBs on dial-up was TORTURE, especially my shitty rural dial-up.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

    I've had ProtonVPN for 3 years now and I have 0 complaints.

    It's the only VPN I've ever used that doesn't have less bandwidth on VPN than off. I regularly saturate my gigabit connection for hours at a time with 0 issues or throttling, and tunnel my torrent client's traffic through it 24/7. It also allows me to watch 4k content on mobile data without throttling and circumvent my phone provider's restrictions on hotspot/tethering that they want me to pay $30/month to remove.

    Best $5/month I've ever spent.

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  • [+] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you can, it's actually a bad thing because it means the Telco is violating net neutrality by picking and choosing certain traffic to zero-rate.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Glad to help!

    The reason it works is because telecom providers use DNS-based throttling instead of deep packet inspection to selectively limit bandwidth to video sites. They have a massive list of all the popular streaming sites (YouTube, AppleTV, Netflix, etc.) and then throttle the sites in the list. When providers say "unlimited 480p video streaming" they actually have no clue what video quality you are watching. They just pick a bandwidth limitation that would only allow 480p video to play without buffering.

    They could in theory use network traffic analysis to identify video websites which have bursty bandwidth patterns (due to the nature of video buffers), but this would be more difficult, more expensive, and extremely prone to false positives.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Apparently you have to forward an email address to get the 1GB. I downloaded it and set it up. I was able to lie and say I moved the rest of the applications by just saying done.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Great incentive, very clever move by Proton. All stuff that’s a good idea anyway but it’s just way too easy to “get around to all that later.” Then it’s 2034 already and Google still has you leashed tight.

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    [–] 15 points 2 years ago

    I use them as my main e-mail and my Gmail for all the spam shit.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    So serious question. Is proton worth it and easy to work with?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I've been using their Unlimited plan for over a year. ~$8 a month for half a TB of cloud storage, automatic photo backup on mobile, fantastic web email and mobile email client, and a great VPN that allows for port forwarding and P2P-optimized servers.

    Totally worth it for me. Great feature set, especially on their email. Everything runs smoothly on my systems. I run Linux on everything and their web client has always been really clean and responsive. Their mobile client too. I use GrapheneOS and haven't noticed any issues with their email or VPN app so far.

    Made switching from Outlook & Gmail super easy. I don't miss those trash services at all, especially not Outlook lol.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    I used proton mail for a long time on a paid plan with a bunch of aliases, but dumped it eventually, now I just have a free email acct with them.

    I pay for their VPN.

    I dont use proton drive despite the cool name. 5gb isn't enough for me to care, and I dont care enough to pay for cloud storage at this point in my life.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    free plan is definitely not worth switching to;

    You short think of it as a primarily paid service with a free trial, not a "free, but with paid subscription for extra stuff" type of deal

    they even go as far as to attach an ad with a referral link to all of your outbound mail on the free tier (btw hiding the fact that this happens is kinda scummy but whatever; if you're curious, it's all the way at the bottom of the settings menu, and locked unless you pay up)

    also, it defaults to proton.me, but some large websites including ph don't accept these, protonmail.com addresses are a lot more reliable

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    [+] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I got this email too... And I'm already paying for Mail Plus so it doesn't apply to me

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