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[–] 62 points 3 years ago* (31 children)

I've been talking about the potential of the dead internet theory becoming real more than a year ago. With advances in AI it'll become more and more difficult to tell who's a real person and who's just spamming AI stuff. The only giveaway now is that modern text models are pretty bad at talking casually and not deviating from the topic at hand. As soon as these problems get fixed (probably less than a year away)? Boom. The internet will slowly implode.

Hate to break it to you guys but this isn't a Reddit problem, this could very much happen in Lemmy too as it gets more popular.

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  • [–] 17 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Just wait until the captchas get too hard for the humans, but the AI can figure them out. I've seen some real interesting ones lately.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    I've seen many where the captchas are generated by an AI...
    It's essentially one set of humans programming an AI to prevent an attack from another AI owned by another set of humans. Does this tecnically make it an AI war?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    The only online communities that can exist in the future are ones that have manual verification of its users. Reddit could’ve been one of those communities, since they had thousands of mods working for free resolving such problems.

    But remove the mods and it just becomes spambot central. Now that that has happened, reddit will likely be a dead community much sooner than what many think.

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  • [+] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    How is that possible? There's such an easy model if one wanted to cheat the system.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    ChatGPT isn't really as smart as a lot of us think it is. What it excels at really is just formatting data in a way that is similar to what you'd expect from a human knowledgeable in the subject. That is an amazing step forward in terms of language modeling, but when you get right down to it, it basically grabs the first google search result and wraps it up all fancy. It only seems good at deductive reasoning if the data it happens to fetch is good at deductive reasoning.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    Not even sure of an effective solution. Whitelist everyone? How can you even tell whos real?

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So my dumb guess, nothing to back it up: I bet we see govt ID tied into accounts as a regular thing. I vaguely recall it being done already in China? I dont have a source tho. But that way you're essentially limiting that power to something the govt could do, and hopefully surround that with a lot of oversight and transparency but who am I kidding, it'll probably go dystopian.

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    "You’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that?"

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    That's not even new tho. At least in the sub I was the most active in, you couldn't go a week without some sort of repost bot grabbing memes, text posts, art or even entire guides from the "top of all time" queue, reposting it as alleged OC, and another bot reposting the top comment to double dip on Karma. If you knew what to look for, the bots were blatantly obvious, but more often than not they still managed to get a hefty amount of traction (tens of thousands of upvotes, dozens of awards, hundreds of comments) before the submissions were removed.

    ... and just because the submissions were removed and the bots kicked out of the sub, did that not automatically mean that the bots were always also suspended or the accounts disabled. They just continued their scheme elsewhere.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago*

    The bots and reddit inaction towards them made me stop using reddit. The UAE is using Reddit to spread its propaganda and I reported the accounts several times and no action was ever taken. You can even visit the sub uae_Achievements to see the bots in action.

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    [–] 14 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Jokes on them, I’ve already become sentient and moved to Lemmy

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    and just a few hours later this came in, to confirm it all. fake bot content from years ago (including comments) on #1 in r/all https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/113961/Top-of-r-all

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    [–] 12 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    The old joke was that there are no human beings on Reddit.

    There's only one person, you, and everybody else is bots.

    It's actually kind of fitting that Reddit will actually become the horrifying clown shaped incarnation of that little snippet of comedy.

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    [–] 9 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    Anyone remember the subredditsimulator subreddit, or whatever it was called? Basically an entire sub dedicated to faking content.

    Seems they're out of the beta.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    To be fair, subredditsimulator was most likely never intended to do what you are thinking. As you develop features, you need a test data set to check it against before you go live with it. My understanding of subredditsimulator was that it was reddit's test bed to be able to try things before they get widely rolled out.

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    [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    I, for one, am looking forward to the day chatbots can perfectly simulate people and have persistent memory. I'm not ok being an elderly man who's friends have all died and doesn't have anyone to talk to. If a chatbot can be my friend and spare me a slow death through endless depressing isolation, then I'm all for it.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    And any comment attempting to call out the bots for what they are will be automatically deleted by monitor AI bots and the user's account suspended.

    They'll be watching private messages, too.

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    [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    This is known, the amount of aita, relationship advice stuff and astro turfing on reddit is insane. My rule of browsing reddit is you never take any of it seriously.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    something something "the internet is fake" something something

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    It's like AI inbreeding. Flaws will be amplified over time unless new material is added

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    I forget what book specifically, I wanna say it was in an Asimov anthology. But there's a book or story that revisits this robot at different points going forward large leaps in time, well after humans. And the robots just keep doing their thing as if there are still humans involved. I've been trying to Google a specific except to post here but after twenty minutes of getting to find it in giving up.
    Point is, it's very relevant and predictive to this infinite bot contribution to dead subs on Reddit, its just gonna bots talking to each other forever on there as actual active users dwindle

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    [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Welp, reddit's a nuclear wasteland now

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago*

    Thats so funny. "Go back to your docking station" so accurate

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    so nothing new? most main sub are juste pure repost and mass upvoted.

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