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[–] 188 points 2 years ago (23 children)

I hate Tik Tok and also hate copyright disputes but can't help but smile when these big corporations have arguments over money and people start taking sides, like Tik Tok or Universal cares about any of their customers.

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  • [–] 71 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I’m on side “Let them fight”.

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    [–] 120 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'll take, "Things That Won't Affect Me at All" for $400, Alex.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Universal music owns the rights to Remember (walking in the sand) by the Shangri-las.

    Oh no.

    Oh no.

    Oh no no no no no.

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  • [–] 58 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If somebody can scrap that annoying song from the internet it would be win for humanity

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  • [–] [S] 48 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    this is everything awful about the modern internet. i hate that they can just go and retroactively destroy creations like this. imagine if someone lost the rights to a song and they forced you to send the cassette back

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I don't use TikTok, do creators buy music fron TikTok to put in videos?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    No, the music overlay music offered in the app is licensed and can be added. Creators who are performing covers, I believe, generally have the license held by TikTok or have their videos muted/taken offline. Special arrangements are made for intentional or encouraged content . That is a guess, but things like Megan Trainor’s “Gucci” where she is both the original artist and a participant would be a case like this. I would think Grace Kelly and sing alongs on arrangement-bound copyright material like Pentatonix doing public domain carols (or even Roger’s and Hammerstein) are negotiated licensing if outside of their pre-negotiated license.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No, they just put it as background music in their videos, but didn't actually pay for it. I would guess it constitutes fair use?

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    Fair use is context based. There is no simple yes or no answer.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In this case there is. Background music is not fair use.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Does it mean that all of existing tiktoks with universal's music will now be silent or is it only going to affect new videos?

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Wouldn't all those cringe lip syncs count as fair use under parody?

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago*

    A lot of people on the internet don't realize how much content is plain copyright infringement that simply doesn't get pursued. Memes, fanart, edits, covers, so forth.

    Personally I think that should be reason to rethink how IP law is written, if the average person doesn't find so many uses infringing and they have become part of the typical cultural habits. But that hasn't happened.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago*

    You could make that argument, but the users would need to get the unedited songs from a legitimate source first. Tiktok wouldn't be able to provide them directly without infringing copyright.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Good, Tiktok has tiktokified enough brains by now.

    Let the brains restore and get used to longer form content.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    UM is almost the sole reason why copyright claims on youtube are such a hellscape, so I'll gladly enjoy seeing them fight TikTok on this.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't understand. Isn't TikTok a video making platform? What catalogue...?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    TikTok was originally an app called Musically where people would lip-sync over songs. Music was/is the core of the app so copyrighting songs would cut down the majority of their content.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Controversial take but...

    Yes, tiktok has several serious glaring issues as a platform but being such an absolutely huge platform, it has been (for a while now) much more than teen dance app. It's a platform that under represented and minority groups have found an audience to share their voice. The are legit journalists, artists, celebrities, organizations, dank memers, etc using the platform for good.

    Obv it would be great if it wasn't all on tiktok (isn't there a federated equivalent?) but seeing people rejoice wherever something bad happens to the platform just lacks... nuance I guess. I know it's hard to compare social media platforms, but from what I can tell it's one of the less controlling, censor heavy platforms. And it's not owned by Elon Musk lol

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