With the stories about data from period tracking apps being shared with law enforcement, I was wondering if there was a self hosted alternative I could host for my daughter. My searches so far have not returned any good results. Thanks!

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[–] 65 points 3 years ago (4 children)

I wrote a period app for my partner, everything is encrypted and never leaves the device.

It has a option where you can set false passwords, so that if you are being compelled to unlock it, it will get up fake data.

Code is open source: https://github.com/cameroncros/PrivatePeriodTracker

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cross.privateperiodtracker

It may not meet your needs, but perhaps worth a look. I am open to adding features (except for ads and tracking obviously).

(I have posted this before, but with an inappropriate account)

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    [+] 57 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (9 children)
  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    "if you are being compelled to unlock it" What kind of world are we living in? I feel awful for the kids of today.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago*

    That's just if it's unlocked with your thumbprint, since, if you're being arrested the cops get your thumbprint anyway, but if it's a password or phrase, you have the right to remain silent, correct?

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    This is super cool. Unfortunately all the teens are using iPhones and I don’t think I’ll be able to install this. If it’s ever an iPhone app I’ll be the first downloader.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago

    If you have an Apple computer and are willing to download some code there’s period underground… it’s terribly written by me for my wife. She uses it on her iPhone and it keeps all data local. I never tried to get it on the App Store due to qt licenses, and because the encryption module didn’t compile so it will rely on you not unlocking your device for someone who shouldn’t be seeing the data. There’s other options I’ve seen on here hopefully one of those will work.

    It does exist on the android store with encryption as an option and blank data with no warning if you enter the wrong password. Also includes a quick delete and a quick delete with random data written into the database as deletion options

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Got nothing to suggest but just wanted to call out that you're an awesome dad parent.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Sorry, I'm just a dude with no periods that buries my head in the sand a bit to much. The government is doing fucking WHAT with your period information? How is this any of their business? Why would they want to know this information?

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  • [–] 42 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Using it to determine if you get pregnant and then suddenly aren't. So they can charge you for getting an abortion.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    That is fucking insane, considering there are a million reasons why someone might not have a period (stress, could just be an irregular person, or literally no reason at all. Humans are not all the same). Or they could simply forget to input data into their calendar one time. Or they could simply decide that they don't want to use the app any more, then change their mind a few months later. This data would be circumstantial evidence at best, and if anyone is being convicted of a crime based on this data, I am extremely suspicious of the court system in that country/state.

    And that's BEFORE we even talk about how it's a huge invasion of privacy.

    And which governments are doing this?

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  • [–] [S] 30 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    The third world government of Texas for one. Whether they target my kid or not, better safe than sorry.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Ah, based on the original wording, I thought this was something that was already happening. As you said, absolutely better to be safe than sorry. Do everything you can to avoid being put in a situation where you need to figure out if this will hold up in court. I want to believe it wont, but who tf knows with how this world is these days.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    Circumstantial evidence can still be enough evidence to start an investigation, in pursuit of more solid evidence.

    Normally this would be a reasonable course of action in proving someone guilty of a crime. However, here the law is completely unreasonable, and the process is being exploited.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Folks are misleading you. There's CONCERN this could happen, it's not happening.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago

    Got it, thanks. I tend to not pay attention to the news, so sometimes I peek out of the rock I live under and am surprised at how much the world has gone to shit. The scenario described by OP is unfortunately plausible.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Menstrual cycle trackers

    • Drip - Menstrual cycle and fertility tracking. Everything you enter stays on your device.
    • log28 - a (very) simple no-frills period tracker for Android.
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    [–] 24 points 3 years ago

    Use the one built into iPhones and either encrypt iCloud so Apple cannot read it ( but no way to recover if you forget password) or turn off iCloud sync for health data (you will lose history with new phone).

    Or, print out a one page annual calendar and use a pencil.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    A woman. I'm interested too... It's really tiring keeping track of it on an analog Calendar.

    If you can't find anything, I suggest you make her a barebones one or get her to use something like etar. It's all local.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Drip is a good option. Funded by Mozilla and German Govt

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    [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Look into Periodical as well, it's on fdroid and completely local. It also shows when the next period should be and works better than some closed source apps.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (11 children)

    I'd probably just spin up a calendar such as one on Nextcloud but also change the name of the event to another plausible name such as:

    Pay day.
    Grandma coming to town.
    Grandma leaving town.
    Walk the cat.
    Pick up groceries.
    Collect mail.
    Drop off mail.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    As someone who uses Nextcloud, why do you suggest obfuscating the name of the calendar event? My nextcloud instance is only accessible from outside my LAN via HTTPS, so no concern about someone using a packet sniffer on public WiFi or something of that sort. The server is located on my property, so physical security isn't a real concern unless someone breaks in with a USB drive or physically removes the server from the rack and steals it. If someone was to gain access to my network remotely, they'd still need login credentials for Nextcloud or for Proxmox in order to clone the VM drive.

    To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm wondering if I may be over-estimating data security on my home network. Considering you're posting from infosec.pub, I'm assuming you know more about this than I do.

    Also, I feel like I need to say that the fact that OP even needs to consider data security for something like really makes me wonder how parts of our society have gone so wrong.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    If your concern for wanting to self host is that you're concerned your government might attempt to access that data, then you should also assume they could get a warrant for that data and force you to decrypt it if it were encrypted at rest on a machine in your home.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    That's a very valid point, and certainly a reason to obfuscate the calendar event. I would argue that in general, if the concern is the government forcing you to decrypt the data, there's really no good solution. If they have a warrant, they will get the encrypted data; the only barrier is how willing you are to refuse to give the encryption key. I think some jurisdictions prevent this on 5th amendment grounds, but I'm not not a lawyer.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    The police can confiscate your servers. Considering some states are treating abortion as murder, I don't think it's unrealistic to say the police could raid your home and confiscate your devices just on suspicion.

    The only thing safe against that is an encrypted device locked with a password, no biometrics like fingerprints or face ID. As far as I know, you can refuse to give a password under the 5th amendment, but you can't refuse to unlock a device with a fingerprint reader or face ID.

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    [–] 6 points 3 years ago

    Drip is one of the better options if you want to just download something from your app store of choice. It’s FOSS, requires minimal permissions, and seems to store all data locally.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I'm looking for a good option too. Hopefully someone chimes in with something!

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