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[–] 176 points 3 years ago (35 children)

The fact that people were registering .ml domains for projects like this is mindboggling. There are many TLDs to pick from without infringing on the terms of use of a country-specific one.

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  • [–] 65 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

    My thoughts exactly. You should not be choosing TLDs that are volatile to upsets like this. Stick with the tried and true .com or .net, or one of the new TLDs that are not bound to a nation (unless you can comply with the stipulations) or particular type of organization.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Or if you absolutely have to, choose the TLD of a country you live in.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Agreed. I went with lemmy.ca since I'm Canadian and the instance is in my country.

    I also heard Lemmy should perform a little quicker for me too this way.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    No, practically speaking the domain name should have no effect on access time. DNS has so many layers of caching that as long as SOMEONE has accessed the website nearby (including you), the domain lookup will be local and therefore fast.

    Anyway, DNS lookup times, even slow ones, are still not going to be noticable to the end use originally.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Even gTLDs aren't entirely safe. .dev is iffy right now because only Google can give those out and Google domains is going away.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    .dev was stupid from the beginning due to how many local domains like that...

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Dang I hope lemm.ee is safe. Hopefully Estonia doesn’t decide the same.

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    [–] 82 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    It'll be fun when Tuvalu decides to take back .tv

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  • [+] 45 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 47 points 3 years ago* (2 children)

    At least Montenegro profits from .me

    The Chagos Islanders get nothing from .io which is controlled by their oppressive colonizers.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    It looks like the TLD was sold off to a private business by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority in 1997, with those rights subsequently being sold on to other corporations.

    The British government have issued an FOI response advising that they recieve no funds from .io domain registrations. The Chagos Islanders still don't benefit, but it looks like that'd need to be squared with a hedge fund rather than a government.

    ...It is weird that territorial domains can be auctioned off in the first place though.

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    I believe they sold the rights to some US company who is now managing the tld.

    They specifically decided to profit off the fact that's it's an attractive tld, unlike tld like .ly and .ml where the country never intended for their tld to get a wide use.

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  • [–] 52 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Is there information about this situation with Mali government about ml domains? I cannot find anything about it.

    Though apparently some ml domain receives a lot of accidental US military emails :).

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  • [–] 39 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Well, this is just weird. When I was migrating from Reddit to this fediverse world I chose .ml and thought it was short for "machine learning" which seemed as a cool domain for me at the time.

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  • [–] 49 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    FYI, two letter TLDs are country/region/jurisdiction specific. There's an ISO standard for that.

    • .tv Tuvalu
    • .me Montenegro
    • .fm (Federation of) Micronesia

    Some countries append additional modifiers to classify their uses:

    • .uk United Kingdom
    • .co.uk Company
    • ...

    Three or more are generic (traditional or new)

    • .com, .net, .org, ...

    In some cases, Uncle Sam said "first!" and it stuck.

    • .edu Education (MURICA)
    • .mil Military (MURRICA)
    • .gov Government (MURRRICA)

    Just like what happens with Mali, what some silicon valley hipsters decide as a 'fun' acronym is just that, a fun thought. If the corresponding government decides to take away a specific domain, they probably can.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    .mil Military (MURRICA)

    That is what made this whole .ml problem. Some people have apparently accidentally leaked American state secrets to Mali by typo.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    That's a poor excuse. If something is secret or higher it has a different TLD. The SIPRnet uses .smil for example. There are also tools at the boundaries that don't allow going from SIPR to NIPR unless they meet specific criteria. Basically you can only leak those secrets accidentally if they were already on a system they shouldn't have been on.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago (1 child)
    • .edu Education (MURICA)

    .edu is not only american. For example I know many schools in France have .edu domains and emails, and I believe it's the case in many more countries.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    No, it's Mali.

    The rumour is that lemmy devs chose it to mean "marxist leninist" but I think it's more likely they wanted a free domain name.

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    [–] 31 points 3 years ago (1 child)
    $ whois lemmy.ml
    WHOIS lookup for LEMMY.ML can temporarily not be answered. Please try again.
    ERROR: domain not found:
    $
    

    But it's still in my DNS cache

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    [–] 28 points 3 years ago

    Sounds like it will if Mali decides to take back .ml as Gabon apparently did for .ga. background here https://domainincite.com/28814-millions-of-domains-to-be-deleted-as-freenom-loses-its-first-tld

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Thanks for the image, I didn't know FMHY had an official response, good to know they had backups....unlike me who lives in eternal danger.

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    [–] 18 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    On the technical topic of renaming a domain of a Lemmy server... I think it is worth experimenting with the code. At minimum, I think it should be an option to try and keep the same login/passwords for users from the old install of Lemmy. But even that could prove tricky if a particular domain changed underllying ownership more than once - and user@domain became rewritten by an entirely different person. I guess in the real-world people do often get mail for previous residence of a house.

    My biggest concern is legality because Lemmy claims to support privacy. I honestly think it's a bad idea to claim privacy because you run into so many problems. If the user never knows that their lemmy instance changed names and can't find it again, etc. Especially on technical topics, 15+ years of having Reddit keep messages from deleted user accounts offered a lot of great search engine hits. With Lemmy, a person moving to a different instance and deleting their account, so much content is going to get black-hole in favor of 50 instances having copies of a meme post or trivial website link - and solid original content (often in comment discussions) gets removed.

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    [+] 16 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    [–] 16 points 3 years ago

    Certified Lemmy Moment

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