Well on the one hand if you have an official judgement it should not be reduced just because this will negatively impact the perpetrators life. On the other hand we always need a way to resocialise perpetrators or they will just don't care when they get out of jail. Further we life in a world where judgements are used against minorities or as a political weapon.

The judical system in the US is fucked.

We aren't ruining their future; they are.

They ruined their own lives. They had a choice.

Hot take, this should not even have to be a question posed. This should be the default and there's nothing you can say to convince me that a person doesn't deserve the full brunt of the law being thrown down on them for these heinous acts. I don't care who it is, how much money they have, or what position in government they hold.

If these were 25 year old black dudes at a house party the president would be lining up the televised firing squad.

I like to characterize this as a direct consequence of their own bad decisions, and not something other people are doing to them. They chose to be shit and it only works out for them as long as other shits are there to protect them. Take away that privilege and they whine that they're being victimized when the consequences are no longer deferred.

Hear hear!

Reporting to the police does not guarantee justice.

FBI crime data shows that law enforcement clears 26% of reported rape cases. In this data, “cleared” may mean someone was arrested or even that the suspect was deceased; it does not necessarily mean the perpetrator was charged, convicted, incarcerated, or otherwise held accountable.

The clearance rate directs our attention to the 74% of survivors of rape whose cases remain unresolved every year. That’s at least 125,274 people who reached out for justice they may never receive.

4 in 5 reported perpetrators are never charged with a crime.

For many survivors, reporting sexual violence means entering a system where the outcome is uncertain. A report may be investigated, cleared, closed, declined, or moved forward—but only a fraction of reported cases lead to criminal charges.

A 20-year review of sexual assault case outcomes found that just under 20% of reported rape and sexual assault cases are criminally charged.

This number points to one reality: many survivors report sexual violence without seeing the person who harmed them formally charged with a crime.

Being believed by police does not ensure accountability.

A 20-year review of reported rape and sexual assault cases found that 89% were “founded” by law enforcement, meaning police determined that the crime more than likely occurred.

But only 8% of reported rape and sexual assault cases ended in conviction.

In other words, police believed most reports, but very few cases led to the perpetrator’s conviction. Survivors can be believed and still not get the legal outcome they seek.

Justice requires more than recognizing harm. It requires systems prepared to move cases forward and support survivors through what comes next.

Based

There are some "mistakes" that simply disqualify a person from living a normal life. When it permanently traumatizes someone, that mistake should follow the person who made it for the rest of their life.

I agree on everything except the not being hateful part. Not about you, but about how I feel about it and what I would personally do to them if I was allowed to. I'm not afraid of committing evil.

Yes. Or at least I hope so. Presumably there are no criminal judges here as they seem to be the most inclined to the opposing viewpoint.

It is insane to me that this gets hauled out as a reason for light sentencing over and over again. Having an impact on a person's life is literally the point, and here they are openly sidestepping it.

these people have no problems ruining the futures of countless women and girls. the very least they deserve is the legal and social consequences of their actions.

Surprising no woman: Men are more likely to say they trust how officials handle sexual assault

The survey, which was first shared exclusively with The 19th, found that women are 14 percentage points more likely than men to say they think elected officials have done too little to prevent sexual assault. Women are also 13 percentage points more likely than men to say they think college sororities and fraternities hurt campus culture, and 10 percentage points more likely to say they don’t trust sororities or frats to respond appropriately to claims of sexual assault.

Happened to stumble on this and it's incredibly on topic with the comments I've been fielding today on this topic.