The graph shows me that Chatgpt had almost nothing to do with the stagnation and decline.
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Or worded more positively: Stack Overflow is closer to being complete.
Didn't Stack Overflow sell their own data to AI companies before the crash?
Might be worth a preservation effort.
And in about 2017 they started with “ThIs Is A DuPlIcAtE QuEsTiOn”, while pointing to a 10 years old answer.
- Looking answer for A.
- Find stack overflow post about it
- “This is a dublicate”
- Link goes to question with answer to B.
- And B while being close to A is not A.
Peak stack overflow experience.
It was around 2017 my questions just stopped getting answers. Even if it wasn't closed, I'd just get nothing. Eventually gave up asking.
Like every experience, where I tried to actively engage with StackOverflow, was entirely negative. It was good for finding knowledge, but the moderators eventually killed it by this very behavior. This is also why you see the growth stalling, which should not happen. ChatGPT was only the final nail in the coffin and even made the existing knowledge disposable.
Sometimes I wonder how many of the StackOverflow moderators were also Reddit moderators.
A popular book doesn't receive new pages either.
Maybe Stack Overflow is "complete" or "stable"? :)
Stack Overflow has been nearly useless as anything other than an archive of old questions for a long time. It's a case study in how gamification can backfire.
For me it was over was before the peak as shown. The gamification that got it started in the first place eventually led to it becoming almost unusable for its intended purpose. Instead it functioned as more of an online-only augmented reality game where people worked to moderate away new questions as efficiently as possible rather than actually answer questions.
Exactly, and the data shows that too. The number of questions were falling ever since the 'game' of the site became being able to shut down new questions with a variation of "this is a duplicate" in the exact mix of mean/demeaning/dismissive that would get the most clicks.
I rather liked stackoverflow, and was fairly popular in the electronics one. I never found it overly rude, but there absolutely were certain individuals who were.
I mourn its inevitable passing; I haven’t found anything that worked as well as it did, and the fact that you can get the data dumps is awesome.
I did like browsing the Popular page and diving into interesting questions in the various sub-sites. One sad, under-discussed consequence of AI is that people no longer turn to each other for expertise (since the AI knows it all), which previously brought people together into communities like SO.
Tried using StackOverflow back in my college days and was confronted by a barage of people practically telling me I am stupid fuck in subtle and not so subtle ways. I am sure people on there being rude and demeaning didn't help their case.
Well... were they correct? Did you graduate?
Why ask when You can search? If You don't find it, then you probably thought about the problem the wrong way!
I was only ever taught to search. Asking was for the class
People were so rude there, we shouldn't mourn its end
Indeed, they were the OG powertrippingbastards
Right, but there isn't really a good alternative, as shitty as it is. And I don't think relying on slop generators is a good alternative
It needs more traffic (and that'll require better servers and more moderation with training to make sure that it doesn't follow the same arc) to become a standard place to go, but I've become fond of Codidact. If I remember correctly, the founder left Stack during one of their bigger moderation blow-ups.
There are lots of good alternatives, just nothing that mirrors Stack Overflow's goal exactly. Lemmy instances, subreddits, forums like code ranch, platforms like dev.to, etc.
Silver lining of the AIpocalypse, honestly. That place could be pretty awful.
*Closed and marked as duplicate of [deleted].
I asked a handful of questions there and allways got really nice answers. Does it matter that people need less help these days?
Seems good to me that AI can take care of the easy questions.
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