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There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027 (grapheneos.social)
submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by to c/technology@lemmy.ml
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[–] 19 points 5 days ago (8 children)

uh what

i used to be with it but then they changed what it was now what I’m with isn’t it anymore and what’s it seems weird and scary to me

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    • [–] 10 points 5 days ago (25 children)

    For now, only Motorola flagships will be sold in 2027 with GrapeheneOS.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (24 children)

    and not just any flagship -- it's ultra high priced folding one.

    edit: i was wrong, it's a regular phone

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    lol, my god, at this point I rather take the fairphone with PMOS, or the pixel with GOS, regardless both are non existent in my local market so I am stuck using Lineage on a old Motorola phone (I did check for PMOS support, and even got it booting but couldn't get the screen to work)

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (20 children)

    Nah, it's a slab phone.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (19 children)

    i'm glad and surprised to learn this since the articles suggested it was a folding phone.

    do have the article that says so handy for sharing?

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (18 children)

    It's the Signature 27 I believe. Still expensive, just not a foldable.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago* (8 children)

    some part of me wishes you hadn't shared this. lol

    i'm too clumsy & absent-minded w phones to ever reasonably expect my phones to last beyond 1.5 years and paying $1k+ makes it hard to justify.

    and i also hate google too much to ever buy a pixel -- new or used -- so that's a complete non-starter.

    i'll probably end up going with lineage instead of graphene because of it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago*

    TBH while I like some of the specs, I don't want to spend $1k on another phone that can't run normal Linux distros (indirectly locking it to Google's enshittification) and lacks expandable storage.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    this. Also, safety concerns. Global south. Robberies and larcenies. I can't just have a $800 brick on me all the time. I can barely replace the $150 one when it gets stolen or breaks. Unfortunately I am forced to participate in this smartphone system, and I remember when the most expensive phone was $300. 🤡

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    If you need security I would recommend that you overcome your predispositions and either get an affordable phone that is supported by graphene (a pixel) or an iphone.

    If you do not need security then no worries, but it would be a shame to end up in a bad situation because you felt it was a bridge too far to use a phone from a particular company.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (2 children)

    i don't mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google -- both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.

    the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i'm hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it's unclear about bigger ones.

    i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they're both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i've been using thus far and it's also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i've had with used phones.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    You should look closer at fed/police capabilities. Only graphene and ios consistently defeat graykey or cellebrite.

    Even small departments have these capabilities or can get them on loan from bigger ones.

    If that is truly something you’re worried about you should weigh your exposure to them against how much you want to not help Google (or apple).

    Google or Apple won’t notice if you do or don’t buy a phone that’s their brand. You will notice if the police are able to look through your device.

    People who put their principles above their own safety can be easily put in situations where they’re in danger.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (8 children)

    Are we sure that's it? I thought we weren't getting a GOS-compatible phone until next year, but the 27 is apparently expected to launch in November.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    Fairly certain, haven't seen full confirmation yet but the chipset supports it, along with GOS' confirmation that it isn't a foldable a while back. Unless Motorola has an entirely new SKU for GOS this seems like it.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Good to know. I'll have to keep an eye out then. I gotta admit, I was hoping out hope for a headphone jack and expandable storage, but I knew that was unlikely.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Those seem to have gone the way of the dodo.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    Unfortunate but true. Some of these sites are reporting the Signature 27 as having storage configurations as big as 1 TB - if that gets confirmed, I may just spring for that. I've recently realized just how much better FLAC sounds compared to streaming, but it takes up so much more space. It's either that or I find myself an old discman and start carrying CDs with me everywhere. At least a CD player would have a headphone jack!

    It looks like Graphene has confirmed that the 27 is the one, though they haven't put out their official announcement yet. I won't be surprised if that comes out later today or tomorrow.

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    • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    I have not had a mobile phone since the Snowden confirmation.

    GrapheneOS is the first thing to give me serious consideration of getting one [despite the remaining issues].

    Preinstalled devices, increases chance of a snap purchase.

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    [–] 5 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    How would they guarantee the device hasn't been tampered with? Sure you could use Auditor, but still…

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    • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    No? GOS said they'll support them not that it'll came preinstalled, ehy would Motorola go through the hassle of installing it?

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    [+] -6 points 4 days ago (5 children)

    If it's not preinstalled, I'm not buying it because there is a risk of injecting a virus along with its installation

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  • [–] 8 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Why would you download the Graphene image from a place that might have viruses, instead of the official site?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (3 children)

    During that time you will have stock Android on your phone, which is Google, such an evil company. You can't be sure that you won't get any virus

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    Malware isn't the same as viruses. Anyway, just don't log in to anything on it until you can wipe and install Graphene. That will fix the issue.

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    • [–] -4 points 4 days ago (3 children)

    That's been a thing for years

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    It hasn't been a thing direct from phone manufacturers. It's just been people flashing phones and reselling them.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    What's the difference to the consumer?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 4 days ago*

    One obvious difference is that there will be official support for GrapheneOS from a hardware vendor. It also means a lot more people are likely to get these phones because most people aren't going to buy a refurbished one just to get GrapheneOS. So, it moves it closer to the mainstream, and that would make it harder for Google to cut off store access as well.

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