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[–] 87 points 1 day ago (1 child)

Musk's pattern:

  • Overpromise
  • Reap investment dollars
  • Talk big talk
  • Before being called on to deliver, move on to the next thing to overpromise
  • Underdeliver, or just completely fail to deliver
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  • [–] 54 points 1 day ago

    This was a scam from day one. The tiles Musk presented to media were made by an LA prop factory.

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  • [–] 81 points 2 days ago

    Tesla offloaded the hardest, least profitable part of the Solar Roof — the physical install and the customer relationship — onto small local companies, let them absorb the training and tooling costs, and then pulled the product out from under them. Tesla keeps a manageable warranty liability on 3,000 roofs. The installers keep the stranded investment, the abandoned pipelines, and the awkward job of servicing a discontinued product for the next two decades.

    And now all these goons will turn around and buy fleets of his scamtaxis and own all the risk, depreciation and liability when they start to mow down families

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  • [–] 69 points 2 days ago (31 children)

    How are you Americans still giving him money? 😂🤣

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago*

    Any American who knows what is up isn't. The problem is regulatory capture. Telsa makes a third of its profits from trading carbon credits. Without this the company has never and will never be profitable. It was always a scam from the start.

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    [–] 31 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Good stuff, I hope they keep killing products and slowly disappear into the horizon.

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  • [–] 214 points 2 days ago* (8 children)

    Musk claimed that Tesla's solar roof would be competitive with conventional roofing tiles when factoring in the value of the electricity generated and said the roof could potentially cost less than traditional roofing materials, especially high-end options like slate or clay tiles.

    Musk lies about everything and even tells us not to believe our eyes. Never forget:

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  • [–] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Every time I see this clip and remember the original he's trying to copy, I can't help but guffaw at how pathetic an imitation it is. Don't mistake this for endorsement, by any means, but the original had composure, posture, military , projected control and determination, all the ingredients for the image of strength he wanted to project.

    Musk? He has an edgy tryhard teenager's imitation, biting his lip like he's trying to look super focused, moving as if he's trying to put feeling into it or whatever. It's like the uncanny valley of parody: We know it's not parody, but it's also not really the original.

    It's like "How do you do, fellow kids Nazis" except Buscemi doesn't deserve being used as analogy for that. Nobody does, really.

    God, Musk is such a loser and it's a mystery how he got as influential among young people as he did.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    The roof tiles was my last Tesla livestream event. Once he was done bragging about how he would fix a nonexistent problem, my suspicions he is a conman were confirmed.

    He’s literally a manchild throwing money at things and seeing which grows, just to gain more power and influence so he can one day rule the world like a cartoon villain. He’s mindblowingly simple to read.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 days ago*

    about how he would fix a nonexistent problem

    Nazi-Musk aside, Its not exactly a non-existent problem. Its just a very very small niche problem that doesn't justify the tremendous resources poured into creating it. Its also an old problem that doesn't exist much anymore.

    There was a time when solar panels were pretty ugly and expensive. Those two things would deter a certain number of people from installing panels. So the idea of cheap solar panels that matched the traditional look some buyers wanted did exist. Heavy emphasis on some buyers because it was a pretty small pool to begin with. What really made solar shingles largely irrelevant was the dramatic drop in cost of regular panels, the drastic increase in performance of regular panels, and the noticeably improved aesthetics of all-black regular panels. So the prior tiny market for solar shingles shrank even more, and the costs of Tesla solar shingles continued to rise without any performance improvements. It was a tiny market before and its a nearly non-existent market now. Solar shingles are bad business.

    Lastly, social attitudes changed and having solar panels on a roof switched largely from being seen as an eyesore to a point of pride for many. This last point isn't totally solved yet. My own housing community doesn't allow panels on the side of the house that faces the road...except in some circumstances (making the rule even more stupid).

    I'm looking forward to the day when I can slap some panels on the other side of the house for even greater solar generation! I'm still have no interest in solar shingles though.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago

    We had a solar company try to sell us on Tesla panels and we noped out because we didn't have confidence in the company (this was before the Nazi stuff was more apparent). Glad we decided to forego that! (For many reasons, but this definitely solidifies it)

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    [–] 59 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Does Vegas still have that stupid fucking tunnel that could have just been a train?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 days ago* (3 children)

    Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

    If your story starts with "I believed in Musk's vision" or "I voted for Trump" or some other asinine bullshit that everyone with a brain stem was telling you was stupid 10 years ago, you can take your sympathy fishing with you all the way to bankruptcy court.

    I hope your kids watch and internalize what a loser their parent is.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    I believed in Musk's vision

    The idea has it's pros and that's why there's a market. Autarq, paXos, SolteQ und Nelskamp are the competition.

    Sadly, in our case (scenic protected village core) they count still as solar, which isn't allowed. They would make the most sense there. Our administration should get an update.

    And even if they all have gone bust at the end of their lifetime (~30 years), you'll still have a roof.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Sadly, in our case (scenic protected village core) they count still as solar, which isn’t allowed.

    pity. I had a chat with the founder of Autarq a while ago. According to him, in the market they're selling to (Germany/central Europe) their solar tiles usually get accepted in exactly these scenarios (protected/historical buildings) — and it's what keeps the company alive despite the significantly higher cost.

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  • [–] 61 points 2 days ago

    a musk company doing something scummy?

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  • [–] 53 points 2 days ago

    Tesla offloaded the hardest, least profitable part of the Solar Roof

    Starting to see a pattern here...

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  • [–] 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I can not fathom a world in which I would risk my money betting on the success of a Musk endeavor.

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    [–] 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I liked the idea. It just couldn't compete with much cheaper traditional panels. People weren't willing to pay a premium for vanity. Also, I think people want to show off the panels, not hide them. I mean you can't gloat about solar panels if no one can tell you have solar panels.

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    Should be cross posted to Leopards Ate My Face.

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