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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It's okay. We need to move some shit off GH anyway. They're basically a monopoly on FLOSS code.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Microsoft is terrible. Remember they also require you to use a Microsoft account for Minecraft now. Fuck this company so much

[–] chameleon@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And they're also deleting/deleted all classic Minecraft accounts from before that. They invented an incredibly weird and needlessly obtuse process to extend the migration deadline by 3 months (true final deadline is now mid December 2023), but that's seemingly it. Everyone not paying too much attention to their email just gets $30 worth of game deleted because of a completely arbitrary decision.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Wait really? I bought it when it entered beta. Do I not own it anymore?

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

You won't soon if you don't migrate your account

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Well that's some bs. I haven't played in a while but the principle of it still bothers me. Especially since I'd have never known if not for reading this thread.

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[–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Anyone without access to their old email also loses their account. I don't remember which email address I used with my account back in the day (it's at least ten years old), and since I bought my key from a reseller, I don't have a receipt. Microsofts response was basically "not our problem, guess you'll have to pay us again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

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[–] beetus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

But this is true for literally anything that requires email verification to login with?

I think msft is scummy here but let's not pretend it's unusual that a company isn't going to help you if you can't access your email to verify your ownership.

If I lose access to my Gmail account and am unable to login to Amazon bc of that Amazon ain't going to help me.

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[–] BlueBockser@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

In Minecraft's case, you never needed the email address beyond initial registration. Login was always through username and password, which I still have. Had I actually forgotten my credentials, that would've been fair, but I didn't. They just suddenly decided that that wasn't enough and they now want some ancient email address that little me had typed in once over ten years ago.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I just let my mincraft license lapse instead of migrating. Fuck em I'll pirate it from now on.

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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago

Have you tried Minetest? It's pretty good, and not Java based so a lot more lightweight.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Wasn't this a pre-microsoft change?

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[–] btp@kbin.social [S] 2 points 2 years ago

Microsoft purchased GitHub in 2018. This change happened this year.

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is primarily to ensure we can support the load for developers on GitHub and help protect the servers from being overwhelmed by anonymous requests from bots etc.

So, Azure's bot protection is crap. Good to know.

[–] satan@r.nf 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

People who haven't hosted anything bigger than a two digit daily visitors tells Microsoft how bad their bots protection is.

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[+] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago

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[–] detalferous@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Google can accommodate billions of searches globally on pages it doesn't control

Microsoft can't index a tiny fraction of that number, even for it's own users.

What a black eye for Microsoft engineering.

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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

TBF going by load times, GitHub search was perpetually on the brink of collapse since well before the Microsoft acquisition. I daren't imagine what the indexes look like.

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[+] elbarto777@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I migrated a few code repositories from Github to GitLab literally the same day it was announced that Microsoft was acquiring Github.

The only regret I have is not evaluating a few other options like Codeberg or whatever. But GitLab's much better than Github.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gitlab requiring a phone number verified account to report bugs kinda turned me off of that platform. Never used Codeberg but heard good things.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

I don't have a (usable) phone number.

I've reported bugs.

I've contributed code.

How did I skate?

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[–] twei@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Codeberg is awesome, it's just like github but open source and self-hostable (forgejo)

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[–] spez_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Self hosted gitlab

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[–] derpgon@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

This has been implemented since like 2016, this is not news lol.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Searching across repos was disabled for anonymous visitors in 2016.

Searching within a repo was disabled for anonymous visitors in 2023.

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[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can someone tell me why this is unreasonable?

[–] btp@kbin.social [S] 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I think it kind of flies in the face of what Open Source Software should be. They're walling off code behind accounts in the Microsoft ecosystem.

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[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 12 points 2 years ago

I think it’s kind of a slippery slope; but I don’t think the search itself being login walled is apocalyptic. As long as anonymous users can clone the repositories and browse the code, I can kind of understand why they don’t want to pay to run an elastic search cluster for bots’ benefit. Presumably in-repo search could be done locally by scrapers’ hardware.

But if it turns into “login to view this repository” then GitHub will have turned evil.

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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago

They're not walling off any code. They're restricting use of their server-side search resources. Other repository hosting services don't have code search at all.

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[+] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

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[–] andreluis034@lm.put.tf 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The code is still accessible, you just can't use the code search function in the web, which normal git doesn't have anyway.

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[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

On its own, it's not. But it's going to be one step on the path to shit-town.

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[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

GitLab, OneDev, Gitea, etc > shithub

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure this only applies to non-indexed repos right?
indexing is a very expensive process and usually takes 5-10 minutes for repos with 10k+ lines, and letting non-registered users start it is not the best idea in the first place

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

This has been around for a while. It may be so they can track and throttle LLMs hovering up public code repos.

Either way, it's a meh. Not sure why anyone would want to clutch their pearls over this. For those who need it, self-hosted gitlab is available.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 4 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure LLMs will need to use the search facility when they could clone the repo.

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[–] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 2 years ago

Extinguish