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[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 45 minutes ago

Well yeah. Of course it would, given the examples they are talking about.

It makes sense right? You have a computer, you can program it to do things. I have programmed mine to scrape data or examine websites, and even in some cases to pull entire directories down.

Now we have an agent do that. In other words a programmed computer tool that is acting on someones behalf using natural language as the question. Note the example given is an AI is looking across as many websites as it can for a review. Or maybe instructions to put something together. Or maybe a list of the highest peaks in the world with the least snowfall. Who knows, but that is endless.

So this "traffic" is still human driven. Its just using a computer to do the work. I think that changes the perspective a little bit. It is all human intention driven.

Also, all traffic by http plus every other request is still human, so that is a bit misleading.

Interestingly, its not like we havent been here before if you look at traffic. The syncing of usenet for a period of time was the largest user of all traffic. So all computer connections, much, much less humans.

Most traffic today is video, then gaming, than music, financial, screen sharing, p2p, and AI makes up a tiny portion. It just is making a huge number of requests for HTTP, but it is growing, and fast.

This is neither pro AI, nor anti AI. I am just trying to examine the landscape instead of the over simplistic headline that really is about Cloudflares business model.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

That's crazy! "The round error" was actually my nickname in high school!

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago
[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago

Why don't we just generate every video imaginable procedurally and host them in space? Get it over with. Every combination of anything. Because that's what this torrent of AI slop videos feel like.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 hours ago

I'm reminded of the episode of TNG where they trapped Moriarity in a simulation so he would think he had taken over the ship.

Maybe we can just have an internet just for billionaires where they have AI produce internet content so they can advertise useless AI products to AI bots run by other billionaires while the rest of us go on with our normal lives in the real world?

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

We have that, it's called social media. But the rest of us are not living our lives without it, seemingly...

[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

You mean Twitter?

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 16 points 6 hours ago

Locally we have been setting up some mesh systems. Its been fun work. One of the best things about it is:

  1. All traffic is human.
  2. No survalance

Its in the early phases but its been a sucess so far.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Its in the early phases but its been a sucess so far.

Mesh networks, you say? I've gotta get in on the ground floor of this new advertising opportunity so I can rake in that sweet early adopter cassssh!

Claude! Code me up an ad-injection framework for this meshtastic dongle I just bought, stat! Time to get me a big ol' chunk of advertising real estate!

(sad /s)

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

We got tired of meshtastic so we build some with Wi-Fi HaLow and other Wifi stuff.

Meshtastic/core are ok as a hobby, but after doing it for a good number of years, im just tired of the downtime, strange issues with heltek and the very small amount you can actually send.

Its fun and we have got a number of houses set up. Its not too hard in our area.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

What's the range like with halow? I've been eyeing it off for a while. Seems like a nice high gain omni and a bit of height would make it go a fair way.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I think that this was the plot of a popular tv show. It failed.

[-] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

There's also the fact that an internet full of bots, AI slop, and privacy risks is making more people pull away from the online world. In our poll, 97% of people said the internet today was a hellscape compared to its early days, and it looks like things are only going to get worse.

Looks like the cure is inherent in the disease. Anyone else remember the early 90s when Usenet was just text-based fun and then some motherfucker thought it was a grand idea to run ads? I do, and it's been downhill ever since.

It's sad that it has come to this, but as usual a handful of greedy fuckers have ruined it for the rest of us. (My personal opinion is that big tech could have arrested this downhill slide at any point, even from back in the first days of email spam, but have chosen to monetize it every step of the way instead.)

Real humans are already individually opting out, one by one, as we each personally get sick of the slop and realize it's just not helping anymore. For myself I'm only on intermittently, I've ditched all social media, Lemmy is all I participate in regularly now beyond the odd comment here and there, and that seems about right for me at this time.

I adjust it regularly, often just by going offline for days, but I had to see the problem before I could change it. I think that's where a lot of people are, just now seeing it for the first time as a real problem affecting their quality of life directly.

But like any other addiction, the point of turning is different for everyone. These fuckers on the other end, filling everything with slop and running bots without end, are just speeding it all up.

[-] dgriffith@aussie.zone 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

These fuckers on the other end, filling everything with slop and running bots without end, are just speeding it all up.

It's the tragedy of the commons writ large.

Started off with cooperation and general good behavior between users, passed through corporations bulldozing the place and putting in paid parking for their strip malls, now we're at the Wall-E stage where advertising billboards talk to robots mindlessly doing tasks in abandoned cities for some nebulous "greater good".

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

ive seen people still addicted to tiktok, and the reddit app.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

They’re not, though.

Have you gone outside, and seen how people use their phones? The public is utterly addicted to social media.

They won.

I think Pondsmith got it right with Cyberpunk. The future of computing is corporate controlled siloes people simply cannot escape, and the “open web” and PC as we know it is basically defunct. Maybe small circles of people will congregate in Usenet-like circles. But not at scale.

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[-] morto@piefed.social 9 points 7 hours ago

A better metaphor is that the signal to noise ratio is getting so small, that the internet is becoming useless

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 50 points 11 hours ago

The weirdest part won’t be bots outnumbering humans: It’ll be bots writing articles for bots, bots summarising them for other bots, bots commenting underneath, and bots measuring the engagement. … Meanwhile three actual humans are somewhere wondering why the internet suddenly feels so empty.

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago

You ever see that movie, Idiocracy? They cloned a clone and it was retarded. Bots copying bots copying bots will eventually turn to shit that's hard to decipher and obviously written by bots.

[-] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I'm still wondering how long advertisers are going to be shoveling money into it until they realize mostly only bots are the audience, and then what the collapse after that is going to look like.

[-] eicker@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

That might be the real breaking point: not when bots dominate traffic, but when advertisers stop believing the traffic represents humans with wallets.

[-] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 12 points 6 hours ago

It’ll be bots writing articles for bots, bots summarising them for other bots, bots commenting underneath, and bots measuring the engagement.

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