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[–] [M] 10 points 4 weeks ago*

In the future, please provide an archive link or a link backing up the statment: https://cppa.ca.gov/announcements/2025/20251113.html

Edit: Rule 7

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  • [–] 36 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

    the picture is broken

    oh wait...now I see it.

    People praising this are unaware of exactly how many different companies have our data. Google works with thousands of different companies that collect our data, amazon works with thousands, facebook works with thousands every internet provider and TV company sells your shit to thousands of different companies

    also...just websites? Not databrokers or advertising companies who don't keep the data on websites? This is a weak half measure that doesn't even make a dent in the problem

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  • [–] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    so don't get excited for positive change until there's a perfect solution? got it 😀👍

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    You're God damn right! I criticize everything that won't work

    If you remove your data from one website you know of the data brokers can still sell it to millions of others

    This bill that got signed into law is a waste of time

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    If you remove your data from one website you know of the data brokers can still sell it to millions of others

    So lets abolish all laws on the books because people still break them? That doesn't make sense.

    This bill that got signed into law is a waste of time

    For who?

    Data brokers will now have to navigate this law and enforce it or face fines at significant cost to their business model; your data is worth ~$200 a year and they would be fined that much per day if they don't comply. And audits are coming to ensure compliance. So yes, it will be a big waste of time, but not for us. It's data brokers who will need to ensure they're enforcing the policy or face fines that well exceed the cost of business.

    Lastly, California started it but now other states are looking to implement similar laws, so its only going to get better.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    This image says website, but the law is actually targeted at data brokers.

    You're mad at something you agree with.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    of that turns out to be true, then that's different.

    but from what I understand, databrokers are already required to delete they data they have on you if you request it, but they make the requests very difficult to fill out.

    So really the bill didn't change anything at all

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  • [–] 24 points 4 weeks ago

    All you need to do is send them more personal data to confirm it is really you. Then they will delete it all, promise.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 weeks ago

    More data collection should be opt in only from the start but at least this is something

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Here is my question.

    How does this affect LLMs. Because as I understand it, once they are trained, you cannot just, "deletr the data out."

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  • [–] 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure as much as possible if our data is being collected, too.

    The fact that it's not as fucked up as in the states is little protection, just look at how chat control got shoved up our bums.

    Laughing at America is a splendid cynical feel-good distraction, but let's not kid ourselves and fight for every bit of privacy they are going to try their hardest to wrest away.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    GDPR already allows us to delete data with just a request, which is what the comment you're refering to references.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    I and I am saying not to get complacent.

    Have you used the GDPR to remove any data?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Lol. No, they can't. They can request that their data be deleted in one request. They can't actually go delete the data from all the servers and backups from all those websites and companies. They can't verify that anyone else has done that. They can't verify that even if they theoretically have it doesn't work like the systems where things are just flagged as redacted or edited out.

    For the statement they make to be true this would a thing with an overseeing body with enough power to ensure that all companies and websites store their data in the same way or with perfect knowledge and access to that data and all backups and the ability to fully wipe any data or backup data tied to a given name, email address, social security number, and whatever selection of browser and device fingerprints the user could supply and ensure that data was unrecoverable.

    I can make something way better than this. Since any folk requesting that are concerned with places keeping their data, they wouldn't even have to give their name let alone any other personal information. It would just be a very pleasing and official looking button, and when they click it there would be a reassuring popup informing them that:

    "Success! Your request for every other person, company, website, UFO, talking animal, or fantasy creature who may be spying on you in this entire universe and any potential alternate universe to immediately stop doing that and delete any information they may have collected has been sent!"

    It would be pretty much just as effective and universally (multiversally?) legally relevant as this is.

    tl;dr: Lol

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Or as we summarize in security, "how do you know?"

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    You replied before my edit. I really want to make that website now.

    I wonder if I should add a little footnote warning that due to relativity in this universe and the potential for variations in the speed and direction of the flow of time in any other than may exist some recipients may not receive the request before the relatively brief lifetime of humanity as a whole has ended.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago

    How about shipping them from gathering the data to begin with?

    Because I guarafuckingtee you that those deletion promises are exactly that: promises. They'll tag your data as "deleted" and simply continue using it anyway

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  • [–] 8 points 4 weeks ago

    I don't think this is quite as easy as everyone thinks. They do this in Tennessee but it only works for situations that almost never apply.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago

    watchout for actually enforcing this

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  • [–] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I'm looking for a job. I'm pretty sure it won't make a difference if I just post my CV publicly on Facebook or CraigsList at this point. Seeing how many AI rejections I have gotten, I'm sure every major tech company knows all my details by now.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Oh yeah... There are like only a couple companies that handle the background profiling of candidates, this was true even before AI, but now they use AI as part of those systems. Once you are rated by them once, that's it. They just will reuse that profile and you will be ignored in all future postings if the profile isn't "desirable" based off their metrics.

    I highly recommend you find someone who professionally assists people create CVs and applications that understands how modern AI applications work. They will know how to refashion everything so your application looks new to the AI and will give you tips to game the AI.

    They will probably charge like $250 for the help, but it will be well worth it. If you have any colleges, especially community colleges near you, they might offer this service for free to basically anyone in state.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Or just reject working with any company that cant be assed to have a human review applications.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Link to said website, anyone?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Now do the other 50 States!

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    And they absolutely won't just collect it again...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago

    Werent they few months before going for age verification on OS?

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