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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 hour ago

The economy has not been good since the 70's and I wish economists would collectively pull their heads out of their asses and stop towing the line of the ones in charge.

What you or I experience is completely decoupled from the stock market, or the GDP, and has been forever.

[-] m3t00@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

economy of paid subscriptions needs to die. ☑️

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

I can burst it quick if I invest in Nvidia and AMD.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

AMD is an industry leader with a huge economic moat and I think they will be okay when the bubble pops. I'm not sure about Nvidia though, despite having superb chips, because the problem is they loaned to companies to buy their chips. So, Nvidia's finances will be strained because Jensen Huang created a ponzi scheme that could not repay or be profitable to itself.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not really a ponzi, more like circular financing. Nvidia exposed itself to the AI bust for no reason other than to keep the money flowing to buy their chips for a little longer. They were selling shovels in a gold rush and screwed it up.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

nvidia gives a trillion dollars to AI, AI buys a trillion dollars of future, currently unmade video cards to run the AI, nvidia gives AI another trillion dollars, AI buys another trillion dollars of unmade future cards, etc etc etc.

Its the biggest, highest energy economic ouroborus I've ever seen.

I cant see how nvidia survives the pop, and quite frankly, I'd be glad to see nvidia die. its been dragging the GPU market in bad directions for a decade+ now and I think it'd be better to be free of its influence.. and it'd open the door to new players to step up and competition again.

[-] mobyduck648@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I’m usually a rationalist but nothing can convince me that Sod’s Law isn’t somehow baked into the structure of the universe.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

could, you mean will. when that happens all those tech people in AI will likely be first to be laid off, the first signs would be the sudden evaporation of AI tech conferences in many hubs,. and all those catering companies, food companies that depend on these conferences is going to hurt too.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

AI isn't going away just like dotcom companies didn't go away. They are in for a steep hair cut though and many companies will not survive.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 12 hours ago

Listen, I work IT at a managed service provider, which means I see a dozen + small to medium business environments daily.

The number of users that I know of, out of the hundreds or thousands that I support, who are actively using "AI" continually to do their jobs... Well, I can likely count them on one hand

There's a bunch that use whatever free tool they are allowed to access. Which kind of flies under the radar for me, but I still don't think you're dealing with double-digit percentages of people using "AI" that actually spend any money on it.

And these are business users, who work at businesses with rather deep pockets at times....

People are not buying the product. "AI" in the business world, isn't making any money. So from what I've seen, this is less a matter of if, and more a matter of when and how bad.

As a tech person, I am not threatened by AI. It can't do my job. Also, I'm the one who fixes it when things go wrong. And the only thing I'm looking forward to is being able to pick up cheap RAM, and storage when this all comes crashing down as AI companies cash out and liquidate their inventory. Maybe I can pick up a cheap AI server and repurpose it to be a 3D/gaming virtual desktop, so when my friends come over with their cheap laptops and on board graphics for a LAN party, I can just provision them a virtual gaming computer and we can go ham.....

I'm going to save my sheckles until then...

I have limited experience with the market but I see it this way: anyone with AI holdings should liquidate at their earliest convenience. I don't think they'll be keeping up this charade for a lot longer. Anyone who has tech holdings, either cash out, or be prepared to have that money held up for a while because it will take a long time for the prices to recover, and unless you want to cash out at a loss, you're going to be holding for a long time. Everyone else, hold onto your butts. Probably everything will probably dip when the fecal matter hits the rotary air movement device. Non tech areas of the market should recover pretty quickly, so meh?

This is obvious to me that the whole thing has failed. That realization hasn't hit execs yet.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 8 hours ago

AI chips arnt usable for personal use though, they seem to be limited to be used by the AI datancenters and not your computers

[-] Senal@programming.dev 3 points 8 hours ago

Not strictly, there are usualy hurdles to overcome for home usage of datacentre tech, but it's possible.

An easy example that comes to mind is that the datacentre GPU's might have cooling configurations that rely on a large amount of airflow from the surrounding cabinet, which you'll get in a datacentre, but not so much in a personal tower.

Also, noise, in a datacentre, noise is much less of an issue than in a personal computer, so they can eschew noise reduction in favour of performance.

Many people that live near data-centres would disagree, but i mean strictly from a usage point of view, not a broader community perspective.

[-] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

So the top 7 companies hedged their entire futures on something unsustainable? In the last 12 months Oracle already laid off over 50,000 employees to bottom-line their AI goals (30,000 ish and 21,000ish a couple weeks ago).

Are we at the point of stocking up on materials and pulling $$ from banks for the inevitable collapse?

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 21 hours ago

That’s the point. AI was never meant to succeed. It’s a ransom. They are willing to kill the hostages so to speak.

[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

I don't have any money. Crash away. Fuck it.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Same with the GFC, 2007. I was broke, and did not even notice.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

The scumbags are getting better at making sure they end up rich when it happens. The only important thing from their point of view.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

Please do. I'm tired of reading PKD novels, they're more fun happening IRL.

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