Two years into full-time Linux and I’m finally burning the distro-hopping cycle. I fell for the Arch/AUR trap for a while, but I got tired of spending my weekends debugging file manager crashes instead of maintaining my home lab.

Switched back to Fedora, and it’s boring in exactly the way I need it to be. It’s a stable launchpad for my projects, not the project itself.

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[–] 34 points 1 month ago (20 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    Yes ! I don't get why debian always seems to be forgotten outside of its server use. I have been running it for 2 years now (homelab, laptop and desktop).

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Beyond none of its branches actually satisfying my preferences, I feel like the way it handles major version upgrades is way too involved. I suppose it makes sense; it's paying back the accumulated debt of a couple years worth of bliss...

    Having said that, my experience on Fedora Atomic is (almost) equally blissful without requiring any of that whenever a major version update strikes.

    Don't get me wrong; I definitely do believe Debian has its uses on desktop Linux. But I can't shake off the feeling that they're definitely more niche compared to say Fedora.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    I love Debian, I use it as a desktop and it's installed on all my machines, but it has some problems/quirks that make it hard to recommend it for desktop usage.

    First one is that it doesn't have sensible defaults, the OS expects a user who is an admin, one who will configure things to their liking. I would consider this to be a feature, if it weren't for the second problem, the documentation. The documentation is wayy too dated, lots of pages in the wiki haven't been updated since Debian Buster days!

    A better recommendation would be probably a Debian derivative like MX Linux. They are more opinionated, but as far as I know, they come with better defaults and offer newer guides, documentation, etc.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Debian is nice & boring, but I have had issues with how old its kernel and software versions are. 6.12 isn't too bad for Trixie, but previously it was really terrible. When I was running Bookworm, I ran into plenty of situations where software I was compiling or getting from outside the repos (for niche software), wasn't backwards compatible to the library versions Debian provided.

    No hate for Debian, but it just doesn't work for a lot of people. However, these days I would go for Debian over Ubuntu 10 times out of 10.

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    [–] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I did the same thing. Settled om Baazite

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Bazzite is just right for my daily driver. I was hopping around different arch distros for a while, but I had some really weird encounters with btrfs and not being able to recover after kernel upgrades. Happened to me 3 times in the span of 2 years.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    I have been on this Linux jam since 1996 with a CD copy of Red Hat that came with a magazine (Byte, maybe?). In 2018 I made the jump to Debian based distros specifically because I got tired of the surprises. Now my lab runs LMDE. The only thing more stable and boring is Debian Stable itself.

    Like you said, I want to focus on my projects, not have the OS be my project.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    it's kind of strange hearing about all this stability and everything on debian stable (and lmde by extension), when it was constantly broken for me and i had to do all kinds of weird fixes

    i have a lenovo thinkpad t490s too so it's not like im running on brand new components or anything either

    been running fedora kde for a few months and it's been running like a dream

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Stable doesn't necessarily means there aren't any bugs, it just means it doesn't change or changes are minor. Of course most bugs shouldn't be a show stopper, though annoying they should have a way to bypass them or simply not have that great a impact.

    I recall when using and regularly updating Arch, a library update borked a software dependent on it — a software required for a Uni class mind you — and while I managed to get it working afterwards, I had to stay awake through the night. That's the difference between stable and rolling release, that wouldn't happen as easily on Debian stable.

    For most users a rolling release model is fine, for servers, it's not.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    At the same time, Ubuntu is so dumbed down thst certain things are impossible via the UI. I spent a whole day and 5 reinstalls to be able to install an encrypted OS next to another partition. This used to be trivial though the infstaller.

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    [–] 14 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    Debian for servers and fedora for desktop for me.

    Some people I will put on Mint for desktop use, if they are super non-technical.

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    What is it with everyone going to Fedora? New Ubuntu apparently.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago

    Fedora is solid these days, well the last few years. It's been so easy and everything is up to date, not lagging behind lke Ubuntu.

    Ubuntu been awful since the beginning, always buggy always needing to be rinstalled at some point.

    It lives on hype alone. I would choose anything over Ubuntu.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I don't get it, but I also haven't used Fedora since like 2007. I settled on Ubuntu for a while then jumped ship to Arch, and maybe for the first time I haven't been wondering where I'd go to next because something frustrated me with the os lol

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    [–] 8 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    I just swapped over yesterday to Fedora from Ubuntu. It’s been a good experience so far! Except for installing nvidia drivers, still working on that

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Why do distros make that so difficult?

    # pacman -S nvidia
    # systemctl reboot
    

    Good to go. 🚀

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago*

    Shouldn't be difficult. Add the rpmfusion repo and install drivers (with akmods that handles everything when the driver / kernel updates). Instructions on the rpmfusion web site. After that, setup dnf-automatic and you're done.

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    [–] 8 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Fedora for fun, OpenSUSE for work.

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    [–] 7 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I also settled on fedora with kde but the fans in my laptop keep spinning up every few seconds, even when locked. It’s very annoying.

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    This is the way.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I fell for the Arch/AUR trap for a while, but I got tired of spending my weekends debugging file manager crashes instead of maintaining my home lab.

    What sort of file manager crashes were you having?

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    [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Don't get comfy, I used to be fedora, then debian, then arch. Mint + Cinnamon is my final resting place.

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    [–] 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Agreed. Fedora is great. Although I do prefer gnome.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    What makes you prefer Gnome? To me, it always felt too simple, as if they're treating the user like a child learning how a computer works. I have the same issue with MacOS too

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    I could make any de do what I want, but gnome is closest to what I’d build out of the box. And that’s a very simple interface. I particularly like the finger gestures on my laptop touchpad. Once you train your brain, you zoom between desktops and programs on a single screen laptop equivalent to multiple monitors.

    Additionally, I’ve found a few simple extensions that I’m sure have kde equivalents, but I’m a creature of habit. Grid is awesome, makes window tiling and snapping awesome. Caffeine for keeping things alive. And a few others. Mostly though it’s just speed of use - especially on the laptop.

    One thing though I hate about gnome though is its high dpi monitor scaling support with Wayland when gaming. There’s four or five really dumb things it does. Sometimes it’s easiest to just change the resolution to what you want prior to launching the game.

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  • Fedora (Silverblue in particular) was the end of my distro hopping journey too. It’s just so pleasant to use and it’s comfortably up to date. I also like its tendency to push newer technologies.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Back to Fedora myself.

    My path so far: Manjaro -> Arch -> Mint -> Fedora -> EndeavourOS -> OpenSUSE Tumbleweed -> Bazzite -> Fedora.

    All distros on the list are brilliant in their own right, they just failed on my hardware in all variety of odd ways, or were simply too limited for what I want to do. Of all of them, Fedora was the least problematic in the long run, and with the snapshot experience I gained from OpenSUSE, I think I can manage it well now.

    P.S. Seems like the article author also got inspiration for btrfs after using OpenSUSE, and I don't think it's random. Folks there made a truly perfect integration. If you want to know what btrfs can truly offer, look no further, this is the best use of this filesystem anywhere on Linux.

    Speaking of Fedora, my experience of installation was nothing similar. It was rough all the way. From the installer literally not launching, to borked nvidia drivers, it all caused me some pain. But after I've set everything up, it was a breeze.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I've stuck with Debian on my server and EndeavourOS (Arch, btw) on my PC. Both have been rock solid.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    Luckily for me, I switched from Cachy to Fedora kde right before the AUR attacks started happening. Fedora honestly feels like home to me now. I customized it to have a very Gnome like workflow, and its working flawlessly for me.

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    [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Debian on my severs and workstation. My laptop is also Debian, though I have a Haiku partition that has been a lot of fun to play around with. It’s way, way better than the last time I tried it.

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