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[–] 263 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The cost in preventable deaths, had we been continuing protein research instead of pouring the world’s resources into a fancy autocorrect, is incalculable.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    Honestly they could’ve pointed AI at this problem to try and rack up at least some positive AI press coverage

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    But you need to understand, preventing deaths doesn't make Google any money. Please think about the poor corporation!

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I think this is a miscalculation on Google's part because dead people can't buy their products.

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  • [–] 155 points 1 month ago

    Holy shit, that is so fucking stupid. This has so much potential. This is such an anti-human pattern.

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  • [–] 136 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Google. The graveyard of projects.

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  • [–] 97 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    alphafold isn't sunsetting, they are dismantling the original research team. its still active and being worked on

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    [–] 74 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    In 2011 Google surreptitiously edited, "don't be evil", from its mission statement. Voila!

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  • [–] 61 points 1 month ago* (10 children)

    So instead of continuing a project that could cure diseases and help understand human biology they'll focus on a system I use for asking questions like "What adhesive is best to attaching siding trim?"

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    At this point in time ai is just a data gathering tool

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Exactly. No offense to the average liberal but this whole "but what will happen to all the compute and data centers when the AI bubble bursts" is so tiring.

    Firstly, the fascist regime will absolutely bail out a few key companies. Secondly, all those centers will be used for mass surveillance, war games, predictive policing (and population control), and all the other shit in the fascist grabbag.

    There is absolutely a level of speculation to this insane bubble. I'm not going to sit here and tell you to ignore the evidence of your eyes. Obviously there is an aspect of short sighted money chasing (pretty standard capitalist bs), and there is absolutely an aspect of corporate greed and the companies trying to outbuild, outcompute one another. But for the people at the top (Miller, Thiel, Elston, Musk maybe, and others), they absolutely have long term goals. They are definitely getting rich off the bubble and benefiting from the short term insanity, but there is more there.

    These neofeudalist assholes want to see us in chains, under their ever watchful AI eyes.

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    [–] 53 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    So the actually useful product gets shit down for the useless product

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    [–] 49 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    So I finally let my Android Auto update from Google Assistant to Gemini, which it's been wanting for months.

    First thing I did was prompt it to play a specific artist, just like I do at least once a week since it forces me to use the voice activation instead of the on screen keyboard, even when there are passengers that can type. It responded saying it is not capable of playing music at all. Wtf.

    So I then rephrase and tell it to play the artist on YouTube Music... And it does so, but doesn't get the artist even close to correct. I had to prompt it 5 times with varying emphasis to get it to finally get it right.

    So literally the first thing it did wa like to me... and then it worked correctly less than 20% of the time... So much better than the Assistant it replaced that never gave me a problem. Totally better.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago* (7 children)

    My car with Google assistant interrupted my conversation with my girlfriend yesterday and started giving me a haiku very loudly for no reason. I guess it was listening and thought we said haiku...

    At least it made us laugh. But technology is ridiculous right now. So much shit we don't want or need.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Same thing with swapping to Gemini on the phone. First thing and only thing I asked for was to set a reminder alarm. But Gemini couldn't talk to the clock app and refused. In the trash it went.

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    [–] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    It’s kind of a marvel that we all have the bulk of human knowledge at our fingertips, and instead of noble pursuits we largely use it for social manipulation and power grabs.

    I guess there is just more population control in misinformation than there is in curing disease.

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    [–] 37 points 1 month ago

    So they want the chat bot that lies instead of the science machine that cures cancers.

    Wouldn't expect any less from the company that removed "Dont be evil" from its company charter.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Funny, one of the first arguments I had about AI was with someone who insisted it would be incredibly helpful at predicting protein folds.

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    [–] 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    How are there like 3 positive comments on this article? Is Engaget primarily for dummies?

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    [–] 19 points 1 month ago

    Jumper announced in June that he was leaving DeepMind to join Anthropic.

    Key people were leaving.

    Other former staff members were reassigned to Alphabet's drug-discovery company Isomorphic Labs, which is a DeepMind spin-off.

    It's not as bad as the headline makes it sound.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    A tragedy has befallen humanity.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    amazing work

    it's crazy. some of this went from taking years to now taking minutes and people react negative because it's using machine learning and AI.

    Thank you Google.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    This is fundamentally different than chat bots and the anti-AI movement needs to learn this to be effective.

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    The usefulness of alphafold had been grossly overstated by science media. The structures it generates are mostly nonsense, they typically can't generate molecular dynamics simulation trajectories with the correct physical properties, which makes them not useful for drug discovery. in computational biology today you'll most often find them in use as a starting point for structure refinement or as one of many sources of data for some integrative method. Again, not useless, and an improvement over previous structure prediction algorithms, but they didn't 'solve protein folding' or anything, like Google might have you believe. I don't put much stock in Nobel prizes, I mean, they gave one to Henry Kissinger.

    Google also released alphafold 3 under a strict non commercial license, which severely limited its usefulness for both commercial and academic work, the latter of which all but requires using more permissive licenses. I assume Google wanted to monetize a commercial version of it at some point.

    I've been using Openfold 3 in some work I've been doing recently, and while the software is a bit undercooked, it does produce structures similar to alphafold 3 without any of Google's bullshit. So I wouldn't worry too much about this announcement. The protein folding will continue with or without them

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t AlphaFold basically solve protein folding, as in their master database of folds is now complete? Doesn’t it make sense to move on at this point?

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    [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Engadget changed the click bait title.

    Google is not shutting down alphafold.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    New title: Google DeepMind disbands its Nobel-prize winning AlphaFold team

    Although the url slug still says:

    https://www.engadget.com/2225849/google-shuts-down-alphafold/

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago

    There is no story here, the original Alphafold team was moving to the private pharma service version of Alphafold. alpha fold continues, nothing is shut down.

    Engadget should stick to iphone reviews.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago

    We pursue AI for the good of humanity my ass

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  • [–] 9 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    Other former staff members were reassigned to Alphabet's drug-discovery company Isomorphic Labs, which is a DeepMind spin-off.

    They're still actively working on this area of research.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago

    No they are not actively working on the same area, and yes fuck google, because this exact example is as clear as it gets why we should burn every database that google owns.

    deepmind by principle was meant to offer global scientific communities a tool that helped with research, cutting down errors and trial time massively, it was a free, open-scientific prediction model.

    Deepmind offered its different versions of source code for free to universities and science based communities, tried to help develop and accelerate its research “non commercial rule applied”.

    Deepmind was non profit, open access that had zero return value on licensing.

    isomorphic lab, is a venture capitalist company that relies on hiding its research, recently get funded 2billion by the most evil zionist, the one and only, the scum of the sewers …. Joshua Kushner.

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    [–] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Don't be [maximally] evil.

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