LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- The Los Angeles Police Department is ending its agreement with Flock Safety, a company that operates surveillance cameras throughout the city.
LAPD announced that it will allow its agreement with the company to expire Saturday.
“It's uncertain whether the cameras will continue recording after the agreement expires.”
I just realized that these cameras likely continue to operate and violate our rights after these cities terminate their contracts. The city I live in did this a month ago. Everyone, including myself, were very satisfied that we pressured the city council to do this despite pressure from the police department and some local businesses. A month later, the cameras are all still installed. I re-read the proclamation from the city and it says nothing about disabling or removing the hardware. It only says that our cops can no longer access the data.
This is some diabolical bullshit, and people need to realize this.
Okay first- this doesn't mean the cameras get removed. It means LAPD's contract to buy the data lapses.
Even if they demand that every Flock camera on public land is removed, there's still plenty on private land. Some apartments, stores, HOAs, etc willingly host the cameras.
The cameras are wireless and solar powered. So they will continue to report and collect data unless covered or physically removed, or unless Flock remotely turns them off (fat chance of that happening).
With that said, I think LAPD is hoping for some kind of one-off deal that restricts how data is collected in LA and who has access to it / what it's used for.
Flock has little to no interest in a million little one-off deals like this- they may do a few for big areas like LA but in general they want uniform unimpeded access of 'we'll collect everything and store it forever and give you access for a fee'.
The real question to me is what's in the contract re: removal of the cameras. I'd bet Flock makes it hard for the city to demand the cameras be removed.
Lots of people are talking about destroying or removing the cameras. Especially when LAPD isn't even a fan, a simple black garbage bag and some duct tape (over the solar panel and camera) should render the camera largely useless. Then nothing is destroyed and it's more of a stretch to charge you with anything worse than littering.
I'd bet Flock makes it hard for the city to demand the cameras be removed.
I can only speak for my city but there was a flock camera for years on a road leading to my house. I pointed it out to someone one day and the next it was gone.
Turns out the mayor had ended the city's contract and all of the cameras were removed.
Granted, nearby there is a hardware store in another city that has flock cameras on each road through the parking lot.
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So if you just have little panels that put out 12v, get two and you've got 24v, now parallel that and you've got a LOT of 24v, get a basic MPPT solar charge controller for $50 on Amazon, get some old telecom batteries, and a 120v inverter, and you've got a small off grid power system.
Quite true, but it's not really possible to disable that without destroying the camera. And that's quite illegal so you definitely wouldn't ever want to do that. Especially since when you drive up the camera can record the BLE data from your tire pressure sensors and use that to identify you.
Everywhere in the United States and the whole world need to outlaw flock. In Canada there is only one city that has flock cameras and they need to get rid of all of them.
Are they removing the cameras or just not paying Flock for access? Kind of important. LA doesn't own the, so they are just removing LAPD access, not access to any other agencies or "partners" Flock sells access to.
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