Are they removing the cameras or just not paying Flock for access? Kind of important. LA doesn't own the, so they are just removing LAPD access, not access to any other agencies or "partners" Flock sells access to.
Without the protection of the LAPD those cameras won't last long.
Everywhere in the United States and the whole world need to outlaw flock. In Canada there is only one city that has flock cameras and they need to get rid of all of them.
Which city has flock cameras in Canada?
you know how bad you have to be to get the lapd to say we can't work with you anymore
They're literally working with FIFA right now
Flock cameras were ineffective at beating up minorities.
“It's uncertain whether the cameras will continue recording after the agreement expires.”
I just realized that these cameras likely continue to operate and violate our rights after these cities terminate their contracts. The city I live in did this a month ago. Everyone, including myself, were very satisfied that we pressured the city council to do this despite pressure from the police department and some local businesses. A month later, the cameras are all still installed. I re-read the proclamation from the city and it says nothing about disabling or removing the hardware. It only says that our cops can no longer access the data.
This is some diabolical bullshit, and people need to realize this.
Hey look, a sale on chainsaws. This has no relevance to the topic being discussed above.
One of those spray-can extension poles would probably work pretty well without drawing much attention, especially if wearing a hi-vis vest and hardhat along with maybe a rubber mask so they can't identify you. Buy a used cheap bicycle somewhere, spray all the cameras you can, then leave the bike on a street somewhere and walk to a secluded place without cameras to change clothing, and be picked up by a friend in a car maybe. Quite doable with enough planning.

And don't bring your phone
12 gauge might be quicker and easier.
There's at least a half dozen better calibers for the job but no firearm is a good answer due to the potential of killing someone on the other side of the camera.
Just how bad of a shot can you be that you conclude no firearm is the answer? Plenty of calibers that doesnt over penetrate the equipment itself. Plenty of calibers with a small enough MOA to accurately hit the lens.
Agree completely, I was thinking birdshot, not something for deer.
The reason I mentioned a type of shot gun, is that the distance it remains lethal is short, and if you’re shooting up towards something, it wouldn’t come down lethal like a pistol or rifle round, which could be dangerous for as long as it maintains a ballistic trajectory. But yes, not a wise thing to attempt in all seriousness.
Your self-assessment of your knowledge of firearm safety is a danger to society at large.
And much louder. People accidentally back into poles all the time on accident though.
I used to have a hush power 410, hand clap level of sound
O.o I've never heard of that!
Anything made of metal would fuck a chainsaw up. Use a rotary cutter or a sawzaw with a blade made for cutting metal
Im not just trying to be edgy here: If they don't belong to the city or the police, if they're privately owned but just kind if left in public, are they "abandoned"? Is it illegal to remove, dismantle tor obscure them?
I want to know the answer to this for liability reasons. The cities say it's their property and they have to pay to replace them when someone cuts one down, but when it's a constitutional issue it's flocks fault because it's their equipment and software.
They're really handing Curtis Yarvin his dream, aren't they...
Palantir can still access the data.
Okay first- this doesn't mean the cameras get removed. It means LAPD's contract to buy the data lapses.
Even if they demand that every Flock camera on public land is removed, there's still plenty on private land. Some apartments, stores, HOAs, etc willingly host the cameras.
The cameras are wireless and solar powered. So they will continue to report and collect data unless covered or physically removed, or unless Flock remotely turns them off (fat chance of that happening).
With that said, I think LAPD is hoping for some kind of one-off deal that restricts how data is collected in LA and who has access to it / what it's used for.
Flock has little to no interest in a million little one-off deals like this- they may do a few for big areas like LA but in general they want uniform unimpeded access of 'we'll collect everything and store it forever and give you access for a fee'.
The real question to me is what's in the contract re: removal of the cameras. I'd bet Flock makes it hard for the city to demand the cameras be removed.
Lots of people are talking about destroying or removing the cameras. Especially when LAPD isn't even a fan, a simple black garbage bag and some duct tape (over the solar panel and camera) should render the camera largely useless. Then nothing is destroyed and it's more of a stretch to charge you with anything worse than littering.
I'd bet Flock makes it hard for the city to demand the cameras be removed.
I can only speak for my city but there was a flock camera for years on a road leading to my house. I pointed it out to someone one day and the next it was gone.
Turns out the mayor had ended the city's contract and all of the cameras were removed.
Granted, nearby there is a hardware store in another city that has flock cameras on each road through the parking lot.
That black bag idea is great.
Oh there's solar panels on these?
Shame if they get dismantled and resold for lots of money. Solar panels sell pretty well to the right people.
Solar panels are also like small batteries. If you want a lot of power, get a bunch of them together and string them together in series (for more voltage) or parallel (for more amperage) or both parallel and series (for both voltage and amperage).
So if you just have little panels that put out 12v, get two and you've got 24v, now parallel that and you've got a LOT of 24v, get a basic MPPT solar charge controller for $50 on Amazon, get some old telecom batteries, and a 120v inverter, and you've got a small off grid power system.
They're small solar panels you could use MAYBE to charge a cellphone at most.
Or run a mesh radio for MeshCore.
Guess you'll need to find a bunch of them!
I like your attitude
Charging a cell phone is a big fucking deal if you don't have an apartment
Cludge a couple together and that bright fucker in the sky will probably power quite a few things.
Source: I am from San Bernardino.
The "gunshot" detection aka always on mics and Bluetooth tracking still work until the battery dies but yeah that's a cheap and easy solution.
Quite true, but it's not really possible to disable that without destroying the camera. And that's quite illegal so you definitely wouldn't ever want to do that. Especially since when you drive up the camera can record the BLE data from your tire pressure sensors and use that to identify you.
solar powered.
"Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun"
-Montgomery Burns
and not other companies that can be used for surveillance, like those red light ones, or the speed cameras.
Nice. Flock losing LA is a huge blow. Despite it being LA, the LAPD is pretty... less than progressive? So, if they're out, that's major.
The only law enforcement in LA worse than the LAPD is the LA County Sheriffs.
But are the cameras gone?
It's called Flock because they see us as sheep.
It's America, you can shoot them down
In case you are worried about getting in trouble, just strap a neighborhood kid to the camera, then shoot it. This is America, we like shooting kids.
They're a flock, let's see them fly away!
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