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Why do you think the socdem symbol is a hand, strangling a rose?
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask 
WDYM? The socdems are already on there
Yet barely anyone knows her actual positions
Upright about 2/3 of the day. Horizontal the rest.
Pssh, easy.
I'd argue she's actually spinning 24/7 due to all the leftist claims that she was some sort of wholesome libertarian pseudo-anarchist socialist
There are only two systems of organisation though. Bolshevik and Anarchist. She was critical of the former, ergo...
Honestly, you act like understanding people's views requires reading them but imagemacros and meme formats are how education happens now grand(pa/ma)
Lmao
Rosa Luxemburg killed social democrats???!!!?
Look she can only be so cool
Hey, the social democrats only formed a coalition with insurrectionist monarchists, like Erich Ludendorff, to kill Rosa for them, so that they could maintain the government they inherited from the Kaiser ahead of elections.
Gotta be fair about these things! This is just Freikorps erasure!
I don't get "Left Coms". Wasn't Trotskyist a catch all term for Marxists left of Stalin? The POUM in the Spanish civil war was considered trotskyist even tho Trotsky himself condemned them. Even in the closer sense, "hate" doesn't fit. Also, Left Coms are the Marxists closest to anarchism. If it was "Stalinist" instead of "Left Coms", the meme would be funny.
Trotskyism is still a Marxist-Leninist ideology, and defends the formation of a vanguard party to lead the revolution. In that specific aspect it is not different from, say, Stalinism or Maoism.
While Left-Communism either rejects Leninism (but follows Marxism) or claim the current ML ideologies promote yet another bureaucratic rule, instead of proletarian rule. And it's extremely suspicious of any sort of "headed" organisation; as exemplified by Rühle's The Revolution Is Not A Party Affair.
Personal comment, as a Trotskyist: it's mostly a difference in the structure being proposed. That does matter but the goal is still the same, so I certainly don't hate them. It's just they (and the Anarchists!) are worried the structures I find useful might bite us back, and it did happen once, so their worries aren't unfounded.
fwiw in my life experience, Trotskyists tend to be more pragmatic about integrating ideas from the full spectrum of leftism. i also have to acknowledge that Trotsky has been instrumental to the revolutionary movements of the global south. where i have to critique Trotskyists is the ones i have known have a tendency to dismiss credible accusations of authoritarian comrades being fascists and will say stuff like "we need to break the status quo first, we'll deal with that after the revolution" then after the uprising the authoritarian faction purges the Trots and says they were secret fascist counter revolutionaries all along.
it's a thing where like… i'm reminded of Trotsky himself. he thought Lenin was a blowhard asshole and he sided with the mensheviks until the Bolsheviks got moving. then he joined the Bolsheviks, believing the best strategy was to get on board with the revolution even if the revolution wasn't perfect. then when Stalin seized power despite Lenin wanting to keep him away from power, Trotsky was out. i guess what i'm getting at is i have a great deal for Trotskyists even i think they miss the mark in some critical aspects. what i find most funny though is the extent to which MLs will go to say Trotsky got what he deserved and Trotskyists are fake leftists and still have the Trotskyists prefer to ally themselves with MLs than other 3rd camp leftists like anarchists
I'm probably the worst person to talk about this, given Bakunin influenced my political view by a lot, but I think even this tendency can be explained by the role of the vanguard. Something like this:
- Trotskyists — you need someone to lead people
- Stalinists, Dengists, Maoists, etc. — yup, you need someone to lead people
- Anarchists — nope, don't bring this shit here, it'll become a new tool for oppression
I'm oversimplifying it, I know. [And to be frank it has been a long time since I read either theory or history regarding communism.] But note how this creates a situation where Trotskyists end siding with other Marxist-Leninists, but always trying to "pull" that vanguard to a different direction than the rest, creating internal disputes in that vanguard and claims we're trying to fuck everything up.
interesting! i guess that makes a lot of sense why Trotskyists would gravitate to more authoritarian models than their own rather than coalition building with less authoritarian models. i trend towards focusing more on what groups are doing and how they're helping and worrying less about who's in charge (and have even observed that groups survive longer if there's no one person in charge). thank you for the perspective on group dynamics!
Which puts them right between trotskyists and anarchists. Maybe I understand the meme wrong and the whole point is that even similar tendencies hate each other
I think your first interpretation was more accurate. Otherwise Maoism wouldn't make sense, it isn't similar to social democrats or to Trotskyism.
What leftcom refers to are either the Dutch/German council communist tendency that is largely dead, or the Italian tendency that generally follow Marx/Engels/Lenin theories and are often associated with figures like Bordiga/Damen, though they do have their differences, namely on the national question which was the burning question in first half of 20th century. It's insanely broad but also unique from other communist tendencies.
the Dutch/German council communist tendency
Sounds even closer to anarchism. Isn't that where anarchists and Marxists worked together? As in the council republic of Munich where anarchists like Erich Mühsam was active.
Not really, it's essentially just another way to organize DOTP so it's still opposed to Anarchism. Pannenkoek was a heavy critic of Anarchism, calling them radical liberals in one of his texts on the matter.
As for the event you reference, I honestly dont know anything about it so can't comment on it
It's tragic that she was murdered so early on in the post-WW1 revolutionary tide. I recall that she was critical of some aspects of the ~~USSR~~ before her death, but I do wonder how she would have reacted to how it developed in the next two decades especially with the rise of Nazism and the beginning of WW2.
She had so much left to contribute I think.
Edit: Soviet Russia, not the USSR.
She was killed before the USSR was even formed.
The RSFSR is what I meant to say
RSFSR at that time controlled only a part of its territory, was embroiled in a civil war against Whites and Allied intervention, and could barely be called a functional state. And there weren't a lot of information flow at that time, so I'm somewhat sceptical about how much of her criticism could actually be applied.
Let's be fair, who doesn't love Rosa?
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