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[–] 193 points 2 months ago (33 children)

It's all good until safety is a consideration

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  • [–] 93 points 2 months ago (21 children)

    This exactly.

    Bench seats are great for hanging out with afore mentioned dog and/or girl.
    Bench seats are super shitty in any sort of side impact collision. There's nothing keeping you in place except your safety belt.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    I mean, isn't that what the seat belt is for? I can't imagine the typical front seat in a modern car keeping you put in a collision either. They're definitely shaped comfort-first, and at best keep you from jostling around on uneven roads.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    It's one of the benefits of a bucket seat, and you'll note front seats have a bucket shape both on the back and the bottom. This does a LOT to keep a human in place, especially if the seatbelt is holding the human down into the bucket. Lots of surface area on the side of the leg and torso for the bucket shape. OTOH with a bench seat there's nothing at all keeping the human in place, there's just the 3 places where the strap crosses the human and those don't do very much. Seat belts are designed to keep you down in the seat.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    Most passenger cars don't really have bucket seats. Bucket seats like in race cars have hard, deep structural sides, whereas in passenger cars they're just soft pillows in a very shallow bucket shape. This is obviously because getting in and out of an actual bucket seat is difficult and consumers don't like it. Because the pillows are soft, they're not going to stop you from sliding out in an impact.

    I imagine the vaguely bucket shape of modern passenger cars has basically nothing to do with safety, at least not in the "stops you from flying sideways out of your seat" sense, and is mostly just a comfort thing.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Having been in accidents in both a bench seat and regular car seat. I can say the car seat did a much better job of keeping my ass in place. Though having the center console to brace against may also have played a part in that.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Those are both bucket seats, just to different degrees.

    Imagine a camera placed where the spine or leg is looking at the side of the seat. Look at how much exposed surface area faces the camera. Let's call that surface area the 'side restraint component'. (IE, if the side panel comes 'up' out of the seat 2", and extends out 4", the side restraint component is 2").

    On a seat belt, you've got about 2" x 4" surface area on each side. So 8 square inches on each side. That's all a bench seat gives you.

    On that car seat you've got about 2.5" x 8" on the back, plus an average of let's call it 2.5" x 4" on the seat. So that's about 30 square inches on each side.

    On the racing seat you've got about 14" x 20", but cut in half as a triangle, and let's say the shoulder bit fills in the missing part by the belt opening. So call that 140 square inches per side.

    The car seat may be designed for comfort, but the side bolsters do have a restraint effect.

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    [–] 70 points 2 months ago

    Yeah because that engineers cute girl and dog probably died in a T bone accident.

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  • [–] 69 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    Drop speed limits back down to 50mph and you've got a deal

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    [–] 46 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    Road head must have been so much better back in the day.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    It was. As was watching the submarine races since there were multiple viable, errr, seating arrangements. A glorious time to be alive.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    As was watching the submarine races

    ... This sounds like a euphemism uh... Beyond my depth.

    Puns aside: ...Wat? Lol

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    it's a euphemism from Detroit MI. There was an island in the Detroit River that had a public park on it that was infrequently patrolled by police because it was too far for them to be arsed to bother, called Grosse Isle. There were several scenic overlooks one could look out over the water or have a picnic at and since they were generally secluded, there were no gates to close it off at night, teenagers would take their dates there to make out back between the 1940's and 1960's. (souce, my dad, who grew up in the downriver area) When they were caught, this became a popular "excuse/explanation" to give to the poe-poe/parents.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    cake felt so strongly about it that they wrote a song

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  • [–] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

    Can't adjust the seat properly. Passengers slide more easily when cornering. More material required for upholstery and padding.

    As someone who has had both, bucket seats are way better than bench seats.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    And dogs at least can do okay with bucket seats. I drove an Oldsmobile Silhouette ^(the Cadillac of minivans!)^ for years, and my dog was just tall enough that he could sit between the driver and passenger seats and look out the front windshield. He was at the perfect height for head scritches while I drove down the highway.

    I remember when he got a bit too hefty to sit there comfortably. The automatic seat adjustment controls were on the right side of the driver seat and one time I suddenly found myself being pushed into the steering wheel at a stop light. His jelly rolls had started pressing in on the little joystick.

    I miss that dog. The van was just okay.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I can both smell and hear this picture.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago

    Ooh, same. And I can viscerally feel the seats and dash etc. The weight of the wheel when you sit and bounce on the springy seats trying to turn the wheel from side to side, and it's so heavy. The creaking squeak sound of the windows as you turn the handle. The great thunk of the door, with it's steel weight and loud creak. My dad owned one of these for a small time when I was a kid, because he's a car enthusiast. There were no seatbelts in the back, so us 3 kids thought it was hilarious to slide all the way to each side of the car (mostly uncontrollably, but with added emphasis) every time it turned a corner. Dad didn't own the car long. No idea why. I remember him getting quite frustrated with us, but we were having so much fun we just laughed. I think he gave up on getting through to us. But don't feel bad for poor Dad, he goes on to invest and enjoy some marvellous cars over the coming decades, including helping his son, the youngest of us all, become a race car driver, coincidentally, of an older car model.

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Had a girlfriend when I was in highschool who was too old for me, had an old Chevy Blazer and loved the Cake song Stickshifts and Safetybelts. Everything about her was fun on a bench seat.

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    [–] 35 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    "Ah don't wear a seatbelt because muh sisters cousins friends uncles neighbors mechanics grandaddys brother died while he was wearing a seatbelt and couldn't get out of the vehicle in time to avoid the freight train that he was too blind and deaf to see or hear coming."

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    [–] 29 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Stickshifts and safetybelts, bucketseats have all got to go, when we're driving in my car, they make my baby feel so far

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    [–] 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Just please don't bring back the metal seatbelt that branded you in the summer months.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago

    My first car was a 1985 LTD that was pirpose built to scar. The seat belt, of course, but also fun little things like the controls and the metal bands in the steering wheel.

    But it was also super easy to work on because the hood was the size of a small nation and you could get to anything. The big hood also gave the tires plenty of room, so it could turn on a dime. I swear you could rear-end yourself with that thing.

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    [–] 23 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    In college our basement had the bench seat from a passenger van in it. Easily our best piece of furniture.

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    [–] 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Because they both died in a fender bender.

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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I never knew what I was missing until I got an f150. Good lord the bench seat is so comfortable and convenient.

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    [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Sorry bud, all I've got are good girls who are cute dogs

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    The MANAGER that made the engineer get rid of them clearly had neither. FTFY.

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    [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Dying horribly being mangled by your own car as you bounce around, so sexy!

    /s

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    [–] 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)
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    Not a fan of bench seats, but I can't argue here - this is pretty solid logic. And a solid bassline in that Cake song about them too.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Had a Chevy S10 when i was in high school, my girlfriend loved it lol

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