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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 209 points 2 months ago

Whenever a malicious app breaks or scammers get to you, its always through the google play store. Their shit isnt even safe to make this fucken claim about safety.

[-] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 months ago

Right but its official, so its safe. That's what matters. Not whether it has malware or not.

[-] dudesss@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is a nice list I'd consider for new phones.

  • Murena (France) with /e/OS (France) on:
    • Fairphone (Netherlands)
    • Hiroh (USA)
    • SHIFTphone (Germany)
    • Teracube (USA)
  • Punkt MC03 (Switzerland)
  • Volla (Germany) with Volla OS or Ubuntu Touch (Germany)
  • Jolla (Finland) with Sailfish OS (Finland)
  • Purism Librem (USA, manufactured in the USA)
[-] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

i got a fairphone from murena with /e/OS preinstalled recently. i love it so far, but theres a weird glitch where it will randomly switch timezones and only goes back when i restart it and some apps are a little broken.

the issues are relatively minor and its nice to have a phone i know i can plan to keep for a really long time. also the camera is so much better than my old phone. some people said its mid compared to other new phones but if i wanted a camera that nice id buy a real camera.

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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

So, do I finally need to learn about GrapheneOS? What are other people doing?

[-] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 months ago

Graphene is only of help (today) if you buy some shit from Google namely a Pixel. If you have another phone, step numero uno is always to learn what custom ROMs are available for your make and model.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 2 months ago

Used Pixels are cheap and the money doesn't go to Google again.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 23 points 2 months ago

It supports Google by making their reseller market strong. People will buy pixels knowing they will be of value on the reseller market thus strengthening the primary market.

That's the problem with buying a used Pixel.

[-] rangber@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 months ago

On theory, yeah. I got a 512gb pixel 9 fold with a dead inner screen, the rest works fine, for $200. It's a good deal.

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[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Graphene is by far the best. I highly recommend it.

Right now you need a Pixel to run it but soon you can get a Motorola that works with it.

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[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 56 points 2 months ago

This is why I'm happy about Motorola next year

With some luck I'll have time to put together my diy palmtop-esque machine, but we'll see if that works out.

[-] Yakfolk@anarchist.nexus 51 points 2 months ago

I really hope the Motorola thing actually pans out. Based on the general state of things I’m done with both Apple and Google.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 9 points 2 months ago

Same here. And its not like we are overwhelmed with alternatives, too.

Things have taken quite the turn from the nexus era to now, dropping nexus for pixel felt so blatant too.

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[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

For anyone who hasn't heard, Motorola is partnering with GrapheneOS to release compatible phones in 2027.

[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 months ago

And what are we supposed to do about it?

I made a goddamn prediction back in 2012 when Google was introducing the Nexus line of handsets. I FUCKING KNEW this "open platform" bullshit had it's days numbered.

These companies are fun when they're young, but they will ALWAYS turn on the consumer.

Adam Smith was right. Without ethics and morals, the system WILL crumble.

[-] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

We have extremely moral billionaires preaching their theology in silicon valley, so it should all be fixed pretty soon.

[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

Ethics and morals are irrelevant when the entire economic paradigm is designed to reward whatever makes the most profit regardless of ethical considerations.

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 52 points 2 months ago

I hope they push this out and spark the ire of the EU, who tells them to unfuck it or starts funding an alternative like Ubuntu Phones or something. That would be an amazing outcome.

Unfortunately, things have to get worse before they get better. It's how people learn.

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[-] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 33 points 2 months ago

Direct Link to Petition mentioned in Post

Remember Change.org is a for profit company, when they ask you to “chip in”, do not do that, if you wish to chip in donate to an advocacy org that fights stuff like this such as the Electronic Frontiers Foundation.

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[-] cristian64@reddthat.com 19 points 2 months ago

Is this update going to affect older Android versions in phones that stopped receiving OS updates years ago?

And, if so, how do I disable all OS updates entirely?

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[-] kibblebits@quokk.au 18 points 2 months ago

Until people fork and forget Google, they will always control Android.

[-] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

september i get my jolla phone :))

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[-] Jayb151@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

What's going to happen to phones that already have 3rd party apps installed?

[-] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It'd be a stunningly idiotic move if they let you keep the ones already installed, but not let you update them - allowing security holes fixed by future versions to persist so you're wide open to exactly what they claim they're trying to prevent. More likely they'll use them as marketing for how "safe" Google is making you by repeatedly pointing out one at a time how they're blocking app "x" now that a security hole has been found on it.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

I'm on GrapheneOS on tablet and phone running mostly/exclusively open source, so not affected.

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[-] sleepy@lazysoci.al 15 points 2 months ago

We all love grapheneOS, but please stop buying Google Pixels to do it. It's such a contradicting action to first stuff googles pocket with even more money, and then be like "I am privacy conscious." Please spend your money on alternatives that will put the money to actually developing good alternatives like FairPhone.

[-] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago

Second hand and refurbished is a thing

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[-] razen@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Everyone happy about motorola and GOS scene, moto has been recently found out for some honey pot scam they were doing in people phone. So the brand we will be paying is not that good and is also just evil like Google

[-] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 10 points 2 months ago

Techradar Article

Is this the Honey scandal all over again? Motorola phones caught adding affiliate codes to Amazon orders

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[-] Reza@programming.dev 13 points 2 months ago

Will it effect free custom ROMs like lineage?

[-] WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today 25 points 2 months ago

Not directly, but they've been making other moves to make life difficult for such users — such as significantly delaying releasing the open source parts they're supposed to, potentially leaving users on insecure versions for far longer.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 months ago

Also things like trusted computing preventing things like banking apps from running on rooted OS

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[-] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Its being pushed through the play services, so anything ROM based on AOSP without google will be unaffected.

[-] MrRandom@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

haven't rooted an Android phone in quite some time, but looks rooting is back on the menu

[-] barneyrubble@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

So what is the next fork here? I've been handcuffed to android/Google (phones/ tablets) for decades. I have a couple of iPads but they don't have cellular and don't fit in your pocket.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Graphene OS

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