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[+] 73 points 3 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    I create content but not for any form of monetization or trying to be popular, I just like to make things that are useful. I'm not happy about it, but my most successful video ever, 40,000 plus views was how to fix a lighter. YouTube automatically made it a short because it was under a minute.

    I crapped that video out in about 20 minutes... Meanwhile the videos I put dozens of hours into get maybe 3, 4, 5, 600 views

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  • [–] 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    No Shorts for me, thanks. ReVanced.

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    [–] 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Ha ha, look at that guy who thinks that the users ' interests are of any concern to social media companies.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    It's also funny looking at it from the other side, from youtube creators saying they feel pressured to make shorts because shorts are so popular right now.

    They're only 'popular' because youtube is pushing them like crazy on everyone they can. Youtube is manufacturing the demand, and creators feel the need to cater to that demand.

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    [–] 29 points 3 months ago

    If your computer is doing something you don't like, change it so that it doesn't do that. It's YOUR computer.

    https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hide-youtube-shorts/

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I have strong ADHD and no self control. will spend all day on short form content if I can. and I hate it.

    Revanced saved me. thank Revanced

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    [–] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The search is terrible even without shorts. The first 3 or for search results are related to your query, most everything after that is just unrelated stuff that YouTube thinks you'll like.

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    [–] 18 points 3 months ago (8 children)

    I use revanced so I can block them entirely.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    The only way to use youtube anymore

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    Also smart tube on the tv, my one complaint is that movies don't work on that one.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago

    I agree but from google's perspective siloing shorts off into a separate app would have meant nobody using it and it dying in a year by forcing it into YouTube's regular algorithm they're forcing everyone in their captive audience to engage with them which makes the experience measurably worse but is nice for somebody whose job relies on metrics I'm sure

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I blocked them with an extension in Firefox and it has improved my YouTube viewing experience, well, back to how it was before shorts, but still not quite as good as it was when we could still see downvotes.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    It's asinine because you could already upload short videos if you chose to

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    what would you choose as a big ass copoeate multi-billion conglomerate

    •Consumer Satisfaction
    
    • More Money 🤑
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    [–] 9 points 3 months ago

    I don't know what you are talking about because I've had an addon that removes shorts for years now.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    I just ignore them, even though they are in my face. I've watched enough shorts to learn most are incomplete, most titles are deceiving, and no dates means I might be clicking on a news related item that is old hat. I can only find out the approximate date from the comments. I still love youtube for a lot of their other stuff though.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    YouTube is so ass these days. It's the UI for me that turns me off. It's simplified yet it somehow also fails to communicate essential information.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    I use the Youtube app on my old smart TV. One of the things that bothers me the most is navigation. Navigating the side bar makes every option load in its entirety as you scroll down it. Want to resume a video you already partially watched? You have to scroll to “Library” to get to your history. But you can’t just scroll there and get it over with, because just going down the menu means having to wait for every single page between “Home” and “Library” to load. What should be a quick, “click down four times, click right once, start video” becomes, “click down once, wait. Click again, wait. Click again, wait. Click again, wait…”

    I see no reason why we can’t navigate the side menu without having shit load every time we click. If I wanted a preview of what’s available, I’d just choose that tab and go from there. If I’m trying to navigate to something specific I want to watch, it’s like YouTube goes out of their way to make it a pain in the ass.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    After decades of stripping away info from videos? Tell me ain't so!

    Yeah, I still have artists I like on the channel (social network effect, ugh), but I watch as the algorithm is trying to steer me away from them. It's frankly disgraceful.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago

    Install Revanced or Morphe. Delete ahorts from app. Profit

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Wouldn't know. I use YouTube in firefox and block ads and shorts with extensions.

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    [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I don't mind them too much. I also don't watch a lot of them and I especially don't scroll through them. But I like that they (usually) get right to the point instead of waffling about and I don't have to block any ads.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    And contrary to sentiment elsewhere in this thread, some are really informative. If someone’s feed is filled with brainrot I feel bad for ya son, I got 99 video suggestions and brainrot’s getting blocked (I know it doesn’t rhyme, we can workshop it.)

    The one that would most fit the bill for Lemmings is Chris Boden aka Physicsduck but there are heaps of informative creators making short content that doesn’t waffle on just to pad the runtime.

    That being said; obviously if the goal is to watch a 1 hour deep dive into a subject and the reaction is “shorts can’t do that”…. Well, yeah, they’re like the fun facts you could get on Minty’s wrappers not documentaries.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Most of the content providers are just re-cutting their existing stuff into shorts. They're low quality. Only the strongest creators can even manage to make one interesting enough to get someone to watch their channel

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    [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    Shorts was a large reason why i stopped watching YouTube, not the only one, but a big part.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    There are ways to block shorts.

    https://www.ghacks.net/2023/05/18/how-to-hide-the-shorts-section-on-youtube/

    Yeah this was written a few years back but it was last updated in Feb of this year.

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (2 children)

    YouTube Shorts make zero difference if one's pattern of usage of YouTube is to only watch YouTube videos linked from other sources rather than actually staying within YouTube and consuming one after the other the videos their algorithm puts in front of you.

    Personally I've never really got into the whole thing of just staying in YouTube and watching those videos that YouTube suggests, maybe because YouTube tends to suggest stuff with alarmist titles ("You won't believe what we've just found out") and other such loudmouth bullshitter crap, and for me that stuff just screams "untrustworthy and superficial bullshit which won't teach me anything new with any depth" so for years it's been the case that when I end up in YouTube their algorithm quickly put me off from consuming what it suggests. At most when I do stay within the YouTube environment to watch multiple videos, I'm explicitly searching for specific stuff, generally more stuff from the same person of the last good video I watched.

    Usually I get a lot better YouTube video "suggestions" from links in posts and comments here or even in Reddit (back when I frequented it) than from the YouTube algorithm.

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Unhook is a good extension for YouTube. It can hide various distractions, such as shorts, and it's also configurable.

    https://unhook.app/

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    [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    i have about 80 lines of filters devoted to hiding them in ublock origin. Works like a charm

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    Extensions -> hide shorts

    Or use revanced/morphe and hide shorts patch

    There's still some good content in shorts (namely original skits) but most of it is low tier content

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Yes, they are annoying.

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    [–] 3 points 3 months ago
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    I've taken various steps to ensure shorts don't show up in my Youtube web experience.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    The only shorts I like are the ones I'm wearing.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    I use a grease monkey script to redirect shorts links to regular videos.

    But I also only watch videos from preexisting subs and never leave the subscription tab now

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