"It's called "The American Dream" because you'll have to be asleep to believe it!"
- George Carlin, I think.
"It's called "The American Dream" because you'll have to be asleep to believe it!"
The American dream is just an indoor water park in New Jersey.
In the wake of the alleged shooting by Luigi Mangione, insurance providers started approving claims, saving lives. I don't see major networks pointing out that fact.
Major networks are owned by rich fucks like the Ceo that Luigi killed
Obviously they don't want everyone knowing that if you start killing them you start getting what you want
The American Dream was built on genocide. If there are people, kill them. If there are no people, claim it is underdeveloped. It makes the land cheap. Then build your dream!
When you feel like you are having a bad day, just feel blessed that you dont live in america.
Damn Commie bastard Europeans with their affordable / free health care. shakes angry fist of USA.
I feel like I must be the only American who actually has good insurance.
There is no such thing
Your healthcare should not be commodified in the first place
For-profit health is disgusting
"Hey, at least my ball and chain are made of gold!"
What would happen to it if you became unemployed?
Well I have it through my spouse so nothing lol.
But yeah I agree having it tied to employment is problematic. However I did have state insurance when I was unemployed so it's not like I wouldn't have insurance, it just would probably be worse than what I have now.
It literally depends on how nice your employer wants to be.
I have a great job now, but I lost two jobs during the covid years. For one of them, my insurance lasted until the end of the next month or something like that, in addition to some severance pay.
For the other, it ended immediately. Like if you have a doctor appointment tomorrow morning that shit will not be paid for. If you wake up sick, maybe call a bankruptcy attorney because we won't be answering your calls.
Wow, I've never heard of one where it ends as soon as employment does; usually it lasts until the end of the current month.
Quick question, have you had to use it for anything serious?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn't know it was good.
This year I have paid $1000 for over $1,000,000 of medical care.
Admittedly I doubt it actually costs that much but even if it's a fraction I feel grateful what I'm paying is not too much.
$1,000,000 of medical care.
That is something I can't conceive of and I'm not alone.
Big numbers are sometimes big for no reason and elimantiong middlemen makes it go down.
Edit: I'm sorry you went through whatever it was regardless.
If you knew the details it might not be as crazy as it sounds... probably not a million but many thousands I'm sure.
Yeah it was pretty rough. Most difficult experience of my life. Even family members said for them it was also their most difficult experience.
The point your missing is you shouldn't have to pay anything.
Has it occurred to you that you shouldn't be paying anything at all?
UK here, I'm getting my asthma inhalers free now im in Scotland, but was like Β£7 in England. Ive had 2 operations and about a week of ward-care, all "free".
We're also being told over and over and over again that the NHS is not fit for purpose and needs to be scrapped and privatised completely. Its baffling.
Yep
Australia ain't perfect, but it's close
In comparison:
German statutory health insurance (GKV) in 2026 totals around 21% of gross salary (14.6% base + ~2.9% average Zusatzbeitrag) plus 3.6% Pflegeversicherung β combined employer and employee. For a β¬4,000/month salary, thatβs roughly β¬840/month total; at the income cap of β¬5,812.50, the full combined cost reaches about β¬1,220/month. Employee and employer each cover roughly half.
I think the cheapest combination would be state owned hospitals and health centers. The state owns the land, pays the staff and buys equipment and medication in huge quantities, which may result in cheaper prices. If not, they could also start producing their own base medication.
A profit oriented health sector is not a good idea. It only gives you minimum care combined with high costs.
No fucking way the real cost is $1M unless you had an organ transplant. And that's still considering US prices which are inflated.
Me too. My wife had cancer.
Wow, you really DO have abnormally good insurance, to only pay a grand in a year.
For anybody else confused by this because you live in a civilized country, let me translate: The standard offering from employers nowadays is called a high deductible health plan. The deductible is the amount you have to pay* for healthcare before your insurance pays anything, and it is typically several thousand dollars.
(* There are a few preventive services that are 100% covered, so if you have no health issues whatsoever you can still get a yearly checkup and a flu shot without paying extra)
You are definitely in the minority. The point is then to look further than your own situation and see the big picture and how the system affects most people. And then decide whether the system is actually working.
"Fuck you I got mine" seems to be a very American sentiment.
βFuck you I got mineβ is a universal right-wing and selfish sentiment.
While the US definitely is further down that road I certainly see that attitude growing in EU.
Our government is trying hard to limit aid to sick people and unemployed.
both painted in the complicit press as leeches.
And don't get me started on refugees.
If you read carefully you might even pick up on the fact that I alluded to the unusual nature of my situation and that it's not common in the US.
You seem to be imagining and attacking a set of views that are not only not in my comment but are contradicted by it. Might be time to touch grass if this is how you're interacting with people.
define "good"?
Mine is good, but is public sector. Although when I worked for a contractor it was excellent.
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