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[–] 152 points 4 months ago (19 children)

However, Carro ruled that a second search of the backpack at a police station was lawful and that items recovered then -- including a gun, silencer, USB drive and red notebook -- ​would be admissible.

Since the police said they stopped violating his rights partway through an illegal search then the rest of the stuff still counts apparently.

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  • [–] 87 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    The items they probably put in there during the illegal search.... facepalm

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    plus the backpack after the fact is suspicious in itself. i wonder if they use surveillance AI/palantir to track him, some people illuded to them doing so.(how else was he found so fast, and that mysterious mcdonalds call.

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  • [–] 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I'm surprised this was allowed at all. The chain of custody on that evidence is incredibly suspect.

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  • [–] 42 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

    This honestly feels like they're deliberately giving ammo to the defense team.

    ...well, assuming there's any intention to actually adhere to the law, which isn't the safest of assumptions nowadays.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    The cops are more of a troop of clowns than the US govt announcements during Iran war. That is overachieving.

    The judge should not be trying to salvage a case based on an obvious and undeniable illegal search. That just makes that judge look like from a foreign country. He's really digging deep trying to keep this going.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago* (5 children)

    This sort of shit is why people continue to lose faith in the courts. The legal world chodes can blame politics all they want, but it all comes back to courts screwing over normal people to back up corrupt cops and prosecutors.

    The courts err on the side of giving themselves and the government more power at the expense of our rights. They've earned our distrust.

    They've completely eviscerated the spirit of the 4th amendment.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    This gives a clear reason to appeal, but the actual trial is going to be so embarrassing, doubt the legal system can survive such scrutiny.

    Really can't determine which country Pennsylvania belongs from the actions of the people they've placed in positions of authority.

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  • [–] 75 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    The evidence could be illegally planted, so that entire backpack is a fishy business, because the police officers turned their cameras off for some reason.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Maybe they all went into the bathroom together all at once? Sometimes a man or group of men just need a handjob. If they want to collectively admit that they messed up evidence collection so they could do a circle jerk, I'll allow it. Otherwise its pretty obviously evidence tampering, which is a crime.

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  • [–] 53 points 4 months ago* (4 children)

    Freaking lmao. I hope Brian Thompson is looking up and realizing how much of a piece of shit he was in life

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  • [–] 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Either Reuters they changed the title, or this was editorialized? Some was tossed, but not all.

    Current Title: Judge denies accused CEO killer Mangione's bid to toss gun, notebook evidence

    Carro suppressed some evidence found in Mangione's backpack during his arrest in Pennsylvania, ruling police unlawfully searched the bag without a warrant. That evidence included a loaded handgun magazine, cell phone and computer chip.

    The judge nevertheless approved a second search of the backpack at a ​police station, and said items recovered there are admissible. Those items included a gun that prosecutors say matches the murder weapon and the ​notebook with writings about wanting to "wack" an insurance executive.

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  • [–] 35 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    The judge nevertheless approved a second search of the backpack at a ​police station, and said items recovered there are admissible.

    God imagine how much time it must save judges when the police do an illegal search first every time and only ask for a warrant after they know without a doubt it will get evidence.

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  • [–] 22 points 4 months ago

    It really is great when the incompetence of law enforcement is beneficial to the community.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Clear case of subsequent searches based on the fruit of the poisoned tree. The only evidence is that backpack.

    The forum is clearly NY law would apply, but the judge is trying hard to ignore the initial clearly illegal search. And give the officers every chance to continue doing whatever they'd like to do as long as it seems structured/organized.

    The three or eight officers. Both situations, a reasonable person, would assume they are not free to leave. Those three officers would love to see you try!

    These officers also broke down a detained suspect by never stop talking at him. And we asking investigative questions and not having a casual unrelated conversation. The rando dude at a McDonalds was being tossed around by the equivalent of a rape gang. There was clear intimidation to elicit continuous conversation after the rando dude said he'd like to remain silent and was not given any chance to do so.

    But the biggest question i have is what is the purpose of the Pennsylvania judge approving the search warrant after it's clear as day an illegal search has occurred and the warrant is based on that evidence and only that evidence?!

    The political activists pretending to be judges cannot save this case. Any reasonable jury would toss it based on the initial illegal search. At what point were they ever going to be serious about obtaining a search warrant? Really not convinced that is really any concern that Pennsylvania cares about.

    The chain of custody is also all over the place. Any jury, in this era, will be hyper aware of chain of custody issues after all the voting machine issues during the last presidential election.

    This case is doomed. All they had to do is kick everyone out of that McDonalds, including themselves, and leave the backpack untouched in the McDonalds but in their line of sight. And get that warrant. Especially if they want to be taken seriously that their excuse. There is always an excuse. But their actions and their excuse proves they are a gang, not a law enforcement agency.

    Even with body cameras they still manage to mess this situation up .... badly.

    Impressive.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    Huge fucking win. I was assuming the worst that they'd allow the illegal search as evidence.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Not that huge. Only some of it is disallowed. The gun and journal are still allowed.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Still bullshit, they shouldn't allow anything found in the bag because they arrested him based on that illegal search, but this is still a big win. It omits large amounts of evidence.

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  • [–] 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    Especially since that whole "fruit of the poisoned tree" thing should mean everything that led from the illegal search should be thrown out.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Man, its so upsetting that Luigi fucked up so bad. He had such a good setup, he could have got away clean if he hadn't made some really dumb mistakes. It's puzzling that he had so much of his plan on point but made such obvious errors.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

    Well "Luigi" actually is getting away with it.

    And this would have been a flawless crime were it not for one major mistake: trying to pin this murder on our boy Mangione. So it's not over yet. Justice may yet prevail.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I have no idea what you're trying to say.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Mangione is innocent! Such a shame these thugs are trying to put this horrible murder on this man.

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