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[-] schwim@piefed.zip 174 points 2 weeks ago

I absolutely love that the tyrannical bullying by the US is going to result in a globally-visible solar win.

That being said, now I worry that this administration will simply bomb them from existence to keep it from happening.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 weeks ago

It's like they're trying to crush a bar of soap that just keeps slipping away.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

"The more you tighten your grip, the more [countries] will slip through your fingers."

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[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

There is a dangerous hope of the US admin being just such a fucking heel that the world is forced to be on the side of good in just pure desperation and opposition.

They are killing real people though and we do have to stop them still. The silver lining of mushroom bomb cloud can provide some comfort but if we see it we have still failed.

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[-] Miller@lemmy.world 100 points 2 weeks ago

Poor US always on the wrong side recently, and with such good intentions too.

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 73 points 2 weeks ago

Bwahaha... Good intentions, that's rich

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

No, you’re thinking of the people keeping us in this mess.

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 71 points 2 weeks ago

Putin & Trump will be sited as being responsible for the push, by the World, for more solar and electric energies. These oil dinosaurs are forcing people to choose green alternatives just to exist. Which is exactly what they both never wanted. hahahahaha

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

meanwhile leaving their own countries lagging behind. "America First" lol.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, Europe was about to declare gas energy plants as "clean energy" but only thanks to Putin they were able to 180 before ratification

[-] TotalCourage007@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

God I'd love to escape reliance on shitty power grids that usually end up torturing its citizens. Maybe once Orange Clown bites the dust we can FINALLY get some proper support for renewable energy like Solar Power.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

Solar is already pretty popular in a lot of places, we're going to have to start building out grid-scale storage and increased transmission capability between the different countries of the EU now if we want to be truly independent of fossil fuels without spending a quadrillion euros on nuclear plants everywhere.

I live far enough north that in the summer we peak at 18 glorious hours of daylight. Electricity prices go negative at times, you have to stop selling to the grid or you'll lose money. But if you've got 18 hours of summer daylight, that means you have 18 hours of pitch black in the winter. The sun rises so low over the horizon that on the few days that it isn't overcast, solar panels barely produce anything. Solar doesn't produce anything for about 2-3 months. The difference as measured by a company doing home solar installations, is about 30x between the best and worst month. That's a company that wants to sell you solar, so they're not likely to overstate the reduction of efficiency in the winter.

We're then dependent on our fossil plants (somewhat unreliable), wind (somewhat unpredictable) and Finnish nuclear plants - but those power us through the underwater ESTLINK cables and those don't have enough bandwidth for heavy consumption periods, nor can the Finns sell everything they generate to us... And worst of all, some of that sweet nuclear power gets passed on to Latvia and Lithuania too. Oh and this is winter, where a lot of people need to run our heat pumps full blast at significantly reduced efficiency over spring/autumn time.

But at the same time, southern Europe isn't affected as much by the lower solar angles and shorter days. There's a reduction in generation for sure, but not comparable to northern Europe. If that electricity made its way here, we wouldn't have to run our fossil plants as much in the winter. With enough storage, perhaps it could even be enough to last through cold winter nights as well.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 68 points 2 weeks ago

At what point will the USA admit their embargo was and is a huge fuck-up and an embarrassment? It's become a symbol of how full of crap we are. Has it been fifty years of this?

p.s. I looked it up because I'm dumb, it's been SIXTY-SIX YEARS. It's even older than me.

All the USA had to do for a fantastic ally by now is stop being an asshole. We could at least return the illegally seized Guantanamo Bay, which is kept just to insult them, really.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

But where will commit torture in legal ambuity if don't have a site off the coast on a land that isn't us jurisdiction but also not the jurisdiction of a country we recognize validty of their human rights laws?

Like it's a really special plot of land if are really trying to specialize in human rights abuse in internationally and domestically legally dubius ways.

All that say, honest wtf is wrong with some of these people

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

After Trump is gone they may admit it.

Dunno why people don’t realize that Trump never admits he’s wrong about anything. He’s an extreme narcissist who throws tantrums like an overgrown toddler. His ego is inflated to such an extreme degree that any hint of any kind of fault on his part drives him into rage spirals from the cognitive dissonance.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 weeks ago

So that "drill baby drill" didn't just backfire, it backfired spectacularly yo the point where I'm thinking that we still might have a chance to stop climate change. Thanks Cheetos!

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago

Cuba was already on track to build solar farms back in 2023, with planned completion by 2025.

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 52 points 1 week ago

Okay so let me go over this again as I have an idea...

Nation that's struggling with dependency on petroleum and unreliable supply chain turns to renewable energy. The solar energy is clean, reliable, requires little maintenance, and is helping that country become less reliant on foreign petroleum.

If that works for Cuba, a tiny nation with few resources, perhaps it would work in other more wealthy nations also. Perhaps if a nation were, say, reliant on petroleum to the point that they start multiple multinational wars to ensure their own access to oil, costing literally $trillions, it might be cheaper to put some or all of that money into renewable energy. Presumably China will sell their solar panels to whoever's buying, yes? So why wouldn't a larger, more developed country purchase them in great quantity so spending $trillions on military actions in the Middle East would no longer be necessary?
If a country like this has some of their own domestic oil production, wouldn't it be a desirable future to just walk away from the Middle East entirely, let the oil assholes kill each other without our involvement, and run the country for a few decades on sunshine? Use that money to buy solar panels literally by the boatload / container-ship-load (or buy the tech and manufacture them ourselves), and then national security is improved through removing foreign dependencies?

Or is this just crazy talk?

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

It's infuriating how successful the oil companies have been at turning solar vs oil into a fucking culture war.

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[-] Leather@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Have you even said thank you to the oil companies?!

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[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

Not crazy talk, Australia currently leads with the highest per-capita uptake of solar panels and it’s having a noticeable impact on our overall energy costs:

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/household-solar-electricity-generation-australian-national-accounts

We actually produce so much excess solar during peak times that households without panels can opt for electricity plans which offer free electricity between midday and 3pm every day (inc. weekends).

We’re also rolling out a heap of household batteries to better help take advantage of this surplus production and offset peak demand times too.

The world is rapidly approaching a post-fossil fuel world; the transition will be slow at first, and then drastic all of a sudden.

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[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 15 points 1 week ago

Or said country simply likes killing people around the world and oil is a convenient excuse.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago

Now, just take that analysis a little bit further by adding the consideration that those elected to manage the nation aren't actually doing that and wondering why.

I bet it will yield interesting results about whose interests such people really serve.

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[-] criscodisco@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Yes but what about the oil companies’ profits? Have you even considered their feelings?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 9 points 1 week ago

OR, we could build those solar panels right here in America, and not only relieve the pressure on oil reserves, but kick off a new big American industry, backed by a national energy initiative, backed by tax incentives. There would be lots of new small businesses around the country selling and installing solar, creating thousands of new jobs.

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[-] zeroConnection@programming.dev 35 points 1 week ago

Funny how the anti-green energy USA is expediting the adoption of renewables around the world due to their moronic laws, policies and wars.

Can't wait to see them left behind in the past with all that oil they can't get enough of, when nobody will need it anymore in the rest of the world.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Both heavy and light oil will still be needed for other processes and products that can't be replaced/way more difficult to replace than fuels. But decoupling oil from energy and transportation will have a huge impact on the market and be better for everyone in general.

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[-] sepi@piefed.social 33 points 2 weeks ago

So they went full solarpunk?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

Cuba in Ten Years

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[-] BigMacHole 28 points 1 week ago

We NEED to Cumpete with CHYNA! Which is Why we're doing EVERYTHING to Force OTHER COUNTRIES to do Bizness with CHYNA!

-Republicans!

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

I don't believe they are just evil, I believe they are actually fucking stupid as well, and short-sighted.

It's the lead.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 20 points 2 weeks ago

not the first time for this kind of thing. they have had a lot of things like organic farming to.

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The evil commies win again. Thanks Obama, you're still ruining America years later.

[-] ThatGiantCameron@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Seems like China recognized a pattern about nations that invest heavily in the poorer parts of the world.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Amazing what a country can do when its continued existence depend on residents doing it.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Anyway I can donate to help them out or does that violate stupid US sanctions?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

Probably violates sanctions. With your DHS being super racist and paranoid, best not upset them and get sent to the thunder dome.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

No, almost certainly not. We're stupidly enforcing a sanction that was created before most of us were born.

China is helping. They're securing a future customer and buying the goodwill of a country for cheap.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

It's often best the short and sharp pain of pulling out a tooth than the lesser but chronical pain (and possible nasty eventual consequences) of a rotting tooth.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

I hope Canada is helping too. We Canadians have vacationed lots and lots over there in past years.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is gonna be the way. PR too, America's second-least-favourite protectorate after Samoa (you forgot it existed, didn't ya?). PR can shore up a bunch with solar power -- and whatever one does for things like storm damage mitigation, the other can also.

And let's do haiti next, although that'll need to be a whole new secure endeavour out of like an embassy basement or something that can't be stolen or blown up.

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