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[–] 49 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

My vote is for 'doing fuck-all regarding Citizens United'.

Oh and not getting rid of the PATRIOT ACT.

... when the Dems had a trifecta, and he could have done it, if he cared to.

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  • [–] 21 points 4 months ago* (7 children)

    The dems having a trifecta does not mean that he has absolute power in deciding what to do with it. If it doesn't fly with the democrats as a whole, he can try, but would fail.

    Let's be honest, the democrats as a whole would never have gone along with getting rid of the PATRIOT Act.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    The posed question was what would history remember about his presidency.

    It was not 'why is this the case / how did that happen'.

    You're rationalizing.

    You're not 'wrong', but you're rationalizing.

    Yep, he/they did not have absolute power.

    But that was the peak of their power - look what they did and did not do with it.

    They sold out the country, continued the selling out of the country... and effectively presided over the main event that literally formalized selling out the country.

    Hopefully I don't need to explain that the President typically has a very large impact on the policies and politics of their party.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I don't think history will remember that he did not do something, especially something that he had no power to do. He'll be remembered for what he did.

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  • [–] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, most people will probably remember him as one of the presidents of the United States?

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  • [–] 31 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    Libya was his biggest mistake. The mildly redeeming thing about it is that he admits that and that his intention wasn't bad.

    You compare that to the current leadership of the USA and it suddenly seems a lot less bad.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    And, of course, less bad automatically means good. I only lost a toe instead of a leg, I should be happy and stop wishing I hadn't lost anything!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Ultimately you'll have to accept that people are people. If you'd randomly pick a person and put them in the oval office with the US army under their command they'd fuck some shit up. Particularly with all the outside pressure from different interest groups.

    I'm not telling you to be grateful for Obama. Hate him, criticize him. Just be aware that he was probably in the top percentile of world leaders. You go ahead and roll your dice. Surely Shitface McAssclown will be a better leader.

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    [–] 27 points 4 months ago

    Take everything bad Obama did. Make it happen in one day. That’s a Tuesday for Trump.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Butcher of Libya?

    Wasn't that Muammar Gaddafi?

    Hmmmm.

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    [–] 16 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    The average american tends to justify any horror perpetrated by the US military and its commander in chief if he is going to be a decent president with domestic policies

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And with Obama, we didn't even get the decency or good domestic policies either.

    Just pretty speeches and excuses.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Not sure here but among the other things I remember he campaigned with the promise to close guantanamo bay, thing that he didn't?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It sickens me how people still deify him in this country. Obama was and is a motherfucker, just fairly well-packaged and with great PR overall.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    I also won't forget that Russia and China did not vote against the intervention.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Anyone defending the black Reagan might want to review his time as president

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago

    Yes, one day relief from Twittler and Lemmy posts about this.

    Way to steer the narrative.

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