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[–] 95 points 4 months ago* (9 children)

1.5 hours runtime for like half a liter of gasoline?? That's unbelievably inefficient. A half-liter of gasoline is like 15MJ, should power a laptop drawing 30W for a week.

Maybe it would be better with a fuel cell.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    One of my friends is homeless, living out of his RV. Rather than going to the library or some other third space to charge his phone, he runs his generator. Then complains about running out of gas.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    30W is 0.04 HP. That engine is just way, way bigger than you'd use if you were designing something like this from scratch, I think. Like putting a truck engine in a go kart, and being surprised that uses a lot of gas.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    30W is 0.04 HP

    anything but metric :/

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  • [–] 46 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    With the current energy prices for fossil, I feel like it'd be a smarter thing to charge them through off-grid solar.

    seriousness aside, this is cursed and awesome. wonder how long it'd take for the tank to run out after running modded Minecraft w/ shaders?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Was about to say. I can't help but feel like it'd be easier to put solar cells on the back of the laptop and let them charge its normal battery.

    I don't think a solar array the size of the back of a laptop screen would be enough to run it, but it'd definitely be enough to charge it.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago*

    For an old power hungry laptop, you’d probably want a 100w panel. They’re about 1x0.5 meters. And realistically they put out 75-80w most of the day.

    But none at night, when everyone wants to hear a chainsaw idling next door.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago

    How off-grid are you really, if you still rely on a grid-connected service to get the gasoline? Should have called it diesel-punk instead

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  • [–] 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should" 😅

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  • [–] 24 points 4 months ago

    That's gonna be one unhappy hard drive, if it still has one.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    actually that reminds me


    there's a series on youtube about putting solar panels on machines and checking whether they generate enough power to power the device

    so they put solar panels on a car and check whether the car runs,

    they put solar panels on drones to check whether they fly

    would this work for a laptop? how much solar panel area do you need to run the laptop? I assume 30W power usage, that means you need 0.15 m² solar panels under full sunlight, my laptop has like 15x20 cm which is 0.03 m² ... so, you could only use it 20% of the time to give it time to recharge.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Most laptops come with 100W bricks, 30W is consumption at idle but most consume around 60W when under load

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    30 Watts at idle is desktop territory, a laptop should be maybe half that nowadays. I'd love to check at the wall with a watt meter, but my older ThinkPad does not have a removable battery anymore and I cannot say how much it would draw just from a USB-C power supply.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    That really depends on many factors, including type of CPU, RAM, thermal setup, screen size and brightness, radios etc. But you can test that pretty easily with a wall wart kill-a-watt type meter or a usb-c tester.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    With a super lightweight laptop, 5w is achievable during light usage. I have one that draws that. It's usable for Google Docs sort of stuff indefinitely on a 5w charger. It can also go down to ~2.2w with low screen brightness and very low load. It is absolutely terrible though, celeron 3855u. I got Minecraft Java to run at 60 fps though... But it was probably using 7-12w then.

    With a modern arm chip, you could get pretty great performance at that power draw. My phone (snapdragon 8 gen 3) in power saving mode can be like 5-10x faster at about 6 watts it seems like.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago*

    Also just for reference, a human consumes about 100W of continuous power output throughout the day (24-hour cycle).

    You can calculate this easily. WHO recommends 2000 kcal a day, which is 8 MJ, divide by 86400 seconds in a day --> 100W average consumption.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago