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Freedom (thelemmy.club)

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[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 112 points 5 days ago

67 brands of shampoo from 3 different multinational corporations whose CEOs are all best friends

[-] Butterphinger@lemmy.zip 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

flips it over

palm oil

"yep..."

[-] mech@feddit.org 36 points 5 days ago

Even the first kind of freedom, for millions of Americans, is limited to whatever Walmart sells.
Cause there are no other shops left where they live.

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 30 points 5 days ago

Also it's the freedom to choose between shampoo from Unilever and also shampoo from Unilever, but yellow.

[-] tangonov@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 days ago

You think its 63 choices but it's actually 2 when you follow the money back to the parent companies. Oh, and you're prematurely bald thanks to the stress

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago

The freedom to speak your mind and live the life you want. So long as it conforms to what the ruling class decree.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 31 points 5 days ago
[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 27 points 5 days ago

That's America, not capitalism.

Europe, Canada etc, the unemployed have medical coverage.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 30 points 5 days ago

Even setting aside America's bullshit Medical industry, yanks have really weird ideas about freedom.

As an Australian the American concept of freedom always seemed nuts, even pre-Trump. Yes American's have the freedom to carry firearms, but I much prefer the Australian freedom to live without fear of being shot.

[-] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Not to mention their ridiculous belief in their right to drive over the speed limit without consequences. Canada included.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago

Ah, yeah I suspect a lot of Australian's do that too.

Perhaps not over the speed limit, but loads of drivers definitely feel as though they're entitled to zoom around right on the limit and any impediment to their passage is an outrageous insult.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I hate that when the world thinks of the US, they think of these 2A freaks. I get why it happens but I still hate it.

The one thing I'll push back on is your last point. Pretty much no one is afraid of getting shot. Gun violence IS an issue but it's not affecting 99.9% of people

[-] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 5 days ago

Americans do not fear being shot on the daily either.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

Americans do not fear being shot on the daily

Maybe if they did, something would be done about all the shootings

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[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

Oh they absolutely do. It's one of the reasons they have such an ingrained gun fetish in their culture and incessantly complain about needing the right to open carry in a Walmart to "protect themselves from a bad guy with a gun."

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[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 4 days ago

If you get stopped by the police because you're driving too fast or driving erratically, is there any chance they would draw their firearm during that interaction, even if they dont point it at you?

[-] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago
[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 5 days ago

Always has been.

[-] Semjeza@fedinsfw.app 10 points 5 days ago

Despite, not because.

Europe has it due to how strong Socialism looked post Second World War. Neoliberal Capitalism has been eroding it as best it can.

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago

Just give it some more years and it'll be gone anyway

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

It is still capitalism, and capitalism is based off of exploitation regardless of whether you have health insurance or not.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Okay but none of that makes the posted message true for most places.

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[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I just wish we had full pharmacare in Canada. I know we got a partial rollout but I got laid off and lost my insurance and the actual price of some of my medicine is way crazier than I expected.

The last time I went to pick up medication, it cost me $450 (CAD) for only for 3 prescriptions which insane. Its nearly half of my EI which already pays less than what my rent is

Luckily I actually just got hired by another place and should have insurance again but damn, our system is still terrible

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Crazy idea, but medication should cost nothing. Nobody should have to choose between groceries and getting the medications they need.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

You'd get no complaints from me. I don't understand why you can go to the doctor which is covered by the government, but any medication for the treatment the doctor literally prescribed is something only those with insurance can have

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The sole fact that mostly capitalist countries provide healthcare for the unemployed is by no means a testament that capitalism is fundamentally compatible with this idea.

No country is purely capitalist or socialist - it's always a mix of the two. Sometimes it's a somewhat even balance, like in some European states. Other times one clearly dominates, like in the USA.

Universal healthcare is a concept deeply rooted in socialism. It functions within mostly capitalist countries, because they've decided to implement some socialist policies. Not because it follows capitalist thought. Because it doesn't.

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[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Based on my observations, the freedom a lot of 'Muricans are thinking about is the freedom to be racist/sexist/ableist/homophobic/transphobic/xenophobic/islamaphobic/antisemitic/misanthropic/all-around intolerably intolerant assholes

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Spoiler …all 63 brands of shampoo are owned by the same shareholders and shadowy investment firm

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

No because you see you’re free to start your own telecoms company or hospital or bank with the money from your trust fund

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 days ago

That's just America. There are plenty of capitalist countries where that's not the case.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 days ago

The rest of the world may lag behind, but someday everyone will have the 63 shampoo flavors

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 points 5 days ago

We have the best of both worlds. 63 shampoo flavors and unemployment support.

[-] save_the_humans@leminal.space 4 points 5 days ago

My dream is instead of three people that own all 63 shampoo flavors, the workers own them

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Get out of here you filthy socialist commy anarchist antifa wanker! That would benefit the people...think of the billionaires who would suffer!

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[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, you have concessions by the ruling class. For now...

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

These are two completely different kinds of 'freedom', that the English language coincidentally calls the same thing. All the other languages that I know of clearly distinguish the two. Interesting, isn't it?

[-] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So does English. The word everyone is confusing is liberty. We do not have freedom in America as is sold. We have liberty. Someone convinced too many they were the same thing.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

liberty: The state of being free from oppressive restrictions or control imposed by authority on one’s way of life, behavior, or political views

That's the one they're trying to dismantle right now...

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[-] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Freedom to smoke cigarettes after being born in 2008 🦅 🇺🇲

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

63 choices of shampoo, but only 3 choices of automobile

[-] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Let's ban all marketing, see what happens. They're the ones peddling bullshit.

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