Belgium to deliver 15 Gepard anti-aircraft guns to Ukraine in new €1 Billion aid plan (www.armyrecognition.com)

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A lot more shaheds are about to get fucked up.

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[-] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 15 points 4 weeks ago

Fantastic, Ukraine now has at least 100 in active service, not including units that are undergoing maintenance or repair.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 points 4 weeks ago

I really want Ukraine to release a video of a Gepard erasing 10 target drones in fast succession, people really have brainworms about this thinking swarms of drones are unstoppable.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

The problem is 100 drones, and the magazines of a Gepard aren’t actually that deep.

So in a sustained saturation attack, it’s important to have layered defense - patriots, NASAMS, short range IR of various types, smaller laser guided munitions, gepards/ZSU-23-2 or -4, and then those computer controlled M2HB mounts they’ve come up with. It’s important to address every element of the saturation attack, and to employ the appropriate and necessary countermeasures for each threat level.

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Had to look up their magazine size: 350 rounds is what they carry according to Wikipedia. Doesn't sound like a lot but it's a large exploding shell and the system has a high level of accuracy. I remember early on there was a report it was downing a drone in 5-7 rounds. So one maganize can neutralize around 50 drones or more. They can also intercept cruise missiles.

These are ideal for the protection of critical objectives as a last line of defense. Every one of them they get is a big addition.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 weeks ago

Of course, but a Gepard with ~350 rounds loaded in each cannon can bring down a LOT of drones very quickly.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago

I’m saying that any system can be saturated or overwhelmed, and that networked, heterogeneous systems are a much better system architecture for modern IADS. The Gepard is very good and a crucial part of Ukraine’s air defense, but it’s not infallible.