Absolute fucking scum, I really hate the grip gambling has on football, and sports in general.
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Should check to see if he sue them, fucking scummy behaviour if true.
should be noted that most advertisers routinely do this in anything they're involved in
People often say to me that it's great players can now open up about their struggles.
Can they really? I certainly wouldn't encourage it
I’d honestly say the exact same about mental health. When a player opens up everybody will praise them for their bravery and honesty in the moment.
But the minute a discussion about something like being captain/crucial penalties comes up you can guarantee they’ll be a lot of people questioning wether they’re mentally strong enough.
People laughed about Paul Mcgrath saying he's won MOTM whilst drunk and he's talking about it deadly serious about what a serious issue he had.
He was suicidal and played games with bandages on his wrists from slitting them.
I feel comparing the mentality to take a penalty vs mental health is weird
That is mental health in general. A company will often hire a person with mental health problems to be seen as inclusive but as soon as they realise that PTSD and BPD are not some random letters but genuine diagnoseses that greatly affect their new emplyee they want nothing to with you :/
You can also say the same about any support for equality. Look at Hendo, shit that he went to Saudi which somewhat goes against his support, but at least he came out and talked about stuff in the first place, it doesn't remove the fact that he supports lgbtq+ equality, isn't homophobic, and is inclusive. There's countless high profile players who have never made a statement either way on lgbtq+ equality etc and could just be homophobic, they don't get jumped on for going to Saudi though. I'd rather have people speaking in the first place and for that reason I'll always defend Hendo (somewhat, the way he's dealt with it has been a bit shit).
But to get to the point no young players going to look at this and think, yeah it's really worth speaking up for what I believe in, incase it goes south. And that's all because of how everyone has treated Jordan.
More importantly, he spoke about gambling subtraction.
Gambling companies are parasites. They have a long history of trying to enticing people into betting, even giving them incentives with physical goods and extra free bets despite being fully aware they're an addict.
Back during covid with nothing to do, I was betting more than usual, nothing crazy but far more active than I'd been in years. 365 sent me a message in site about my activity basically a check in to make sure I know the warning signs of addiction as I was on the site quite a bit.
Less than 30 seconds after that message they gave me a £5 free bet so I could continue gambling....
just pure extraction, has no tangible benefit to anyone apart from the bookies
I always rail against betting. I fucking hate it.
I have a mate who is always trying to get me to "just sign up" cuz this app is giving a free $50 bet and he'll get a kickback for my registration, and he'll just give that to me if I want. Or this app does this, etc etc. He's not losing his home over his betting, he does small prop bets and shit and cashes out when he's ahead, but it's still fucking annoying, and clearly a minor addiction for him.
Basketball is my favorite sport, and one day I was watching a game, when I saw a Fanduel commercial that said people who placed a bet could get 3 months of league pass after placing their first bet or something along those lines. I was honestly tempted to do it just because having league pass would beat the hassle of always needing to find a stream, but it hit me while I was watching that that is EXACTLY how people become problem gamblers. They entice you with something that you want outside of gambling, and once you start, you can't stop. It's been getting worse and worse, and it seems like it's here to stay; NBA players can even invest in betting companies, it's pushed in every single commercial, and it's inescapable regardless of sport, Football, Basketball, American Football, etc. Gambling is super predatory, and I don't trust it at all.
If it's that TalkTV show with a bunch of betting sponsors, why would Caulker want to work there in the first place? Not trying to victim-blame, but aren't you practically working with these betting companies if you take up the job?
Bet365 are vile fucking parasites. Provide fucking nothing to the world whilst profiting of people's abject misery. The amount of money the company makes is obscene.
I'm not necessarily all in for 'treat gambling addiction like a drug addiction', but the relentless betting advertising that's just absolutely everywhere exacerbates problems people may already have. It's disgusting.
I'm not necessarily all in for 'treat gambling addiction like a drug addiction'
Agreed. Drug addiction can at least be cured.
That is genuinely disgusting.
The way he says he ‘finally’ landed a tv job too, sounds pretty gutting.
People seem to wonder why the premier League is the wealthiest in the world and how even relegation clubs get more revenue than other leagues winners. It's mostly broadcasting revenue.
Where does broadcasting revenue come from? Broadcasters. Where do broadcasters make their money from? Ads. I don't live in the UK but sail the high seas and I'm shocked at the number of ads before, during and after the matches on Sky. Not even counting all the side frames during the halftime talk and during the games showing me a plethora of odds. It's abnormal and unheard of in Asia and the middle east (starsports India or BEIN middle east channels).
Sky, who own Skybet and get money from bet365 and other betting sides are the lifeblood of the premier League. They control a chunk of the media. If you attempt to stop gambling sites from promoting themselves the way they are doing so now, things crash very quickly and the premier League no longer can afford all the players and salaries they can now. And it's a rigged process. It's obvious they don't want these persons on their shows.
For the record Broadcasters who have premier league rights get the vast majority of their revenues from subscriptions, not from ads. It’s a significant amount of money from the gambling companies but it is not their main source of income.
Gambling sites are pos I asked yesterday on fan duel if there was a way I could turn off the casino feature because i mainly use the Sportsbook they closed my account fucking scum
When you lie with the dogs don't be surprised when you get fleas.
I'm pretty sure they can't turn off the casino, so they probably did it to protect you.
This is a non issue. Gambling corporations dont want customers or people who are gambling addicts, they are known as problem gamblers. Thereputable companies will you show the slightest concern that you might be an addict limit your account instantly or shut it down. Caulker with a history of being an gambling addict will never have a job with a reputable gambling company. I have a friend who was declined a job at bet365 as well because his account there had been shut down due to responsible gaming concerns..
It's hilarious that you think the gambling companies actually care about their customers. Absolutely none of the 'protection' protocols they have in place would exist if it was up to them. They run adverts and allow you to limit yourself so they can say to anyone complaining that they do actually care, look at what we are doing. You've literally got a story here about them blocking a former addict from appearing on TV because they are scared. Yet you think it's a non issue, yikes.
Do you think any company ever cares about its customers?
He wouldn't be taking a job at a gambling company though.
He'd be talking about football on a show sponsored by a gambling company.
Bet365 haven't blocked his employment with a third party because they're responsibly worried he'll lose his money. He can do that with, or without, that particular employment.
They blocked it because it would be allowing reality to fly too close to the lie.
Tbf it'll only be a matter of time until a new big bad becomes the defacto advertising company. But, fuck this, i imagine it's soooo hard to talk about addictions and for him to get rebuffed due to a shows sponsor is pretty poor.
Which show is this anyway? BT?
Tremendously thick from Bet365. The Streisand effect in plain view.
Gross. But so typical of present day football.
Soccer Saturday being a six hour advert for skybet whilst Merson works on there turns me off as well.
Paul Merson is still employed by Sky despite all their PL being sponsored by Bet365
ban gambling adds
Fuck this, his analysis is great too - seen him on inside spurs and he talks really well, would make a great pundit
Utter bastards.
This is shameful of both bet365 and the TV company in question for bending to them.
Moments like this really show betting companies really don't give 2 shits about the responsible gambling campaigns and only about £
Ah our corporate overlord shows its blinking arsheole again
Checks out. Assholes
gambling addition is nothing compared to gambling multiplication. Don't even get me started on gambling exponentiation.
May be unpopular opinion but i dont mind sin companies from advertising, as long as they concede that people are able to talk about them in a healthy way.
Steven Caulker should absolutely be able to talk about gambling addiction while Bet365 is a sponsor, just like an alcoholic or religious person can say they dont drink with Heineken as a sponsor.
Rejecting something that exists in the world completely is unhealthy. You need to be able to talk about it. So if the rules of the game prevented any right for sin companies to react if somebody says something against them, im all for it.
It's abhorrent that gambling companies have their clutches deeply embedded in the sport. Youngsters are growing up with the perception that gambling is a normalised activity. This sets a perilous precedent.
I've personally grappled with a gambling addiction. Believing that one can simply "stop" is akin to telling a heroin addict to abruptly cease using the needle. It's an illness, and certain personality types are more susceptible to it.
I popped a bottle of champagne the day the maximum bet for Fixed Odds Betting Terminals (FOBTs) was capped at £2 per spin. By then, I had overcome my addiction, but I knew many who frequented these machines and lost substantial sums. The government's sluggishness in updating regulations underscores the deep entanglement of gambling firms in politics. The decision to limit bets was straightforward, yet these bookmakers contended, "But the average person only loses £20 an hour," which is complete nonsense. A mere visit to a betting shop at that time revealed the rampant nature of gambling addiction. I've seen numerous instances where individuals, in frustration, smashed FOBT machines, and the staff hardly reacted, seldom even calling the police.
Nevertheless, online gambling remains largely unregulated. Individuals can still easily wager up to £1,000 per spin on roulette from their own homes. It's alarming how many might be struggling with addiction in private.
Gambling should be drastically curtailed in terms of its advertising, particularly in relation to sports, and online gambling needs to be either banned or stringently regulated to prevent people from falling into this trap. Football, in particular, should sever its extensive ties with gambling. Even if this leads to financial losses for the sport, it would be a sacrifice for a commendable cause. Perhaps then footballers won't receive such exorbitant salaries.
What did he add to gambling?
Lightweight. I only gamble on multiplication.
Betting has ruined this sport. Change my mind.
Gambling companies offer nothing to society