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Persistent inflation, rising unemployment, and corruption cases are creating the worst possible panorama for the president’s public image

In a scenario constructed from the official statistics promoted by the government, Javier Milei’s Argentina is a happy world: poverty is falling to its lowest level in the last seven years, economic activity is reaching record highs, and fiscal balance is being maintained.

But, simultaneously, more and more people say that their present situation doesn’t align with the successes touted by the far-right president, a disconnect pointed out not only by his detractors but even by figures of economic orthodoxy aligned with his policies.

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[-] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 4 months ago

They voted for it... again and again

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 25 points 4 months ago

They were faced by sold out parties owned by powerful interests and chose the protest candidate.

No lesson to learn there pals, go back to sleep...

[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 62 points 4 months ago

I admit:

I didn't have "Milei fascism resulting in donkey meat as an Argentinian food staple" on my bingo card.

[-] manxu@piefed.social 28 points 4 months ago

Right? Argentina having a beef shortage is weirdo bizarre, like Russia running out of vodka or Saudi Arabia out of oil.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 20 points 4 months ago

There is no beef shortage. It's just about beef being too expensive. Also, I've lived in Argentina my entire life and I've never seen "donkey meat" or heard of anyone who has.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Supongo que es en el campo o uno de los lugares mas pobres. La liberalización de la economía de esta forma siempre lástima a los de bajo recursos. Si la carné de rez en el extranjero gana mas entonces hay un costo de oportunidad en elegir no exportar la. Irónicamente eso causa inflación ya que el mercado domésticos tiene que compensar por la oportunidad. Dudó que esto se vea en Buenos Aires.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 4 points 3 months ago

Who said I was referring only to Buenos Aires? I've travelled all over Argentina and have friends in multiple cities. Nome of them has ever seen or heard of "donkey meat". Regarding exported meat, it's known that the best meat in Argentina is exported, not consumed locally.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You don't know what you're missing out on!

[-] sepi@piefed.social 11 points 4 months ago

Or America running out of mass shootings

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca -1 points 4 months ago

Fun fact, Vodka is swill, and has always been owned by the Tsar that has a virtual monopoly on it. The rich in Russia don't drink that shit.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Vodka is the drink of the proletariat

Molotov the monopolies

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Vodka is the drink of suckers feeding the Tsar, or president as the case may be. Brew your own. Or go to hell.

Molotov idk, meet luigi.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unionizing distilleries is not a crazy concept

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You think the russian government will allow unionization? They would kill/enslave them all.
Do it yourself, in secret.

But yes, Unionize.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

No, fuck the Russian government and every other capitalist hellhole

[-] bedwyr@piefed.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

So you just want to go online and shit on everyone I guess? No thanks

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 months ago

"Argentines Explore Diverse Food Sources as Free Market Expands."

[-] resolute_clover@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 months ago

Who could've guessed and that's after US taxpayers gave them $20 billion

[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 months ago
[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 months ago

The fact that nobody seems to know the actual answer to this should be a literal fucking crime.

[-] TransNeko@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

20B is what the people got after all the bribes were paid.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 months ago

Which people? Milei and his best buds?

[-] TransNeko@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

yep. and chances are some of that "40b to Argentina" went straight into trump's pockets.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Race/racial dynamics in Argentina will keep this man in power, I'm almost certain of it.

[-] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Oh no... How come? I'm genuinely asking.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Unlike most of Latin America and its racial admixture, Argentina is just colonizer land, something like 90%+ of people there are purely of European origins, many of them white supremacist fascists coming from Italy and Germany in WW2. They brought their ideology and takes with them, and there already was a fertile base for it before too, and (at least from my understanding) they'll vote for the obviously amoral and deranged pale man because "he's one of us and that's what matters", in a very Trumpian American manner. 🤷

Remember white Argentinians, way past the days of Spanish colonization, had their own fun times with reservations, mass killings and concentration camps for native Americans...

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

There is a lot of ignorance in this comment, have you ever been in argentina?

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, a couple of times actually, the meat is glorious over there. From the "Racism in Argentina" wiki:

"European" racism and Article 25 of the Constitution

In Argentina, an extensive racist ideology has been built on the notion of European supremacy.[30] This ideology forwards the idea that Argentina is a country populated by European immigrants bajados de los barcos (straight off the boat), frequently referred to as "our grandfathers", who founded a special type of European society that is not Latin-American.[31] In addition, this ideology holds forth that cultural influences from other communities such as the Aborigines, Africans, fellow Latin-Americans, Arabs, Asians, and Pacific Islanders, are not relevant and even undesirable.

European racism in Argentina has a history of government participation. The ideology even has a legal foundation that was set forth in Article 25 of the National Constitution sponsored by Juan Bautista Alberdi. The article establishes a difference between European immigration (which should be encouraged) and non-European immigration.

Article 25: The Federal Government will encourage European immigration; and will not restrict, limit, nor tax the entry of any foreigner into the territory of Argentina who comes with the goal of working the land, bettering industry, or introducing or teaching sciences or the arts.

— Constitution of Argentina

Alberdi, the article's sponsor and the father of the Argentine Constitution of 1853, explained in his own words the basis for White-European discrimination:

If you were to put the roto (literally "broken"), the gaucho, the cholo, the basic element of our popular masses, through the finest educational system; in one hundred years you would not make him an English worker who works, consumes, and lives comfortably and in a dignified manner.

— Juan B. Alberdi[32]

The discrimination between European and non-European immigration established by Article 25 of the Constitution has survived all subsequent constitutional reforms (1860, 1868, 1898, 1949, 1957, 1972 and 1994).

Alberdi claimed that the "races which could improve the species" in Argentina where those that originated from Western Europe, chiefly Spain, England and France. Alberdi was also very partial to France where he spent much of his life in exile and where he died in 1884. In this way, despite the predominantly Hispanic and Latin culture of Argentina, Alberti proposed a semi-nordicist policy somewhat similar to the later White Australia policy and the United States Immigration Act of 1924.

Alberdi, who was a proponent of French being the national language of Argentina, believed that Latino and Christian traditions were enemies of progress and supported discrimination against Latin American and Jewish immigration.[33]

On the other hand, Argentine racist ideology against Jews became stronger over time. The apex of this tendency occurred when the Argentina foreign minister during the presidency of Roberto M. Ortiz issued a secret order in 1938 to deny Jewish immigrants visas to Argentina.[34]

In an effort to combat racism in Argentine society, the National Institute Against Discrimination, Xenophobia and Racism (INADI) was created in 1995 by Federal Law 24515.[3] However, in 2024, the Javier Milei administration closed the INADI to reduce public spending.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ok, i will try to be polite

Unlike most of Latin America and its racial admixture, Argentina is just colonizer land, something like 90%+ of people there are purely of European origins

That number refers to people with european roots, not pure european origin. And yes, it has to do with colonizers and genocide, but it also has to do with a lower native population compared to other parts of america and to the fact that between 1870 and 1910 we got overflown in immigrants mainly coming from italy and spain. Think of a 1/2 ratio of immigrants to nationals.... they mixed, they reshaped everything, our culture, our accent, our schools, our products amd exports...

many of them white supremacist fascists coming from Italy and Germany in WW2.

That... i mean "yes, there were nazi and fascist refugees in argentina" but we are talking about thousands... not millions... its not like we are speaking german on the streets. This isn't a hollywood movie, right?

They brought their ideology and takes with them, and there already was a fertile base for it before too, and

... i cant follow you... are you citing Peron, the populist guy who tried to mimic and mix fascism and stalinism, or the ever dying oligarchs (you know, the dudes that were pushing military coups). bothe were and were not nazis in their way... what they definitely were not was racists.

(at least from my understanding)

Ah, that explains

they'll

Oh, wow.

vote for the obviously amoral and deranged pale man

yes, a lot of people sadly voted for milei

because "he's one of us and that's what matters", in a very Trumpian American manner.

No, it wasnt like that

Edit: still waiting for something that explains this level of xenophobia

[-] SoupBrick@pawb.social 18 points 4 months ago

Do the Libertarians still claim this guy as theirs?

A member of the Libertarian Party, Milei ran for president of Argentina...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Milei

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

They stop glazing him as much. Still doesn't change that he is or that ancaps suck

[-] Insekticus@aussie.zone 2 points 4 months ago

Boy fuck, they're keeping this burning heap of trash whether they like it or not. Argentinians will be known for electing this muppet whether they're smart enough to realise it or not.

[-] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago

Been hearing that for awhile, but even after passing some extremely unpopular laws, he still won majority of congress on midterm elections

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 months ago

Why are almost all of those fasc assholes so fond of ill-fitting suits and bad haircuts? Is it the visual equivalent of typos in a Nigerian prince email scam?

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Boris Johnson’s look is/was apparently designed to make him seem likeable to stupid people. They see someone who has a decent fitting suit and think “fuck that elitist bastard” because that’s the level we’re operating on.

To be honest, I get how it has an effect but this is just insanity. The level of fuckery we permit based on the dumbest shit is just insane.

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Not everyone has Hugo boss on speed dial

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

No, but when you're being funded by millions of dollars of campaign contributions to go out and win people over, you have the money to have Hugo Boss on speed dial if you think how you look matters to people you are trying to convince to vote for you.

That means they either don't think appearance matters, which is counter to pretty much every study on human nature, or they look that way intentionally. It's one thing for a normal dude without much fashion sense or without the money to afford nice things to have ill-fitting clothes. It's another when a politician with a team of advisors and a ton of money looks like this.

Also, Hugo Boss has been dead for 80 years, so of course nobody has him on speed dial.

[-] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

No shit!!!! Who would predict such a thing, give government to a ultra conservative lunatic and expect positive results.

[-] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Need more Uruguay

[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Gargling on Israel's balls and giving the zionist nazis all of argentina's lithium in exchange for a little torch ceremony and a diploma, what a freedom fighter!

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh noes. Populist has no solution, only messes shit up.

[-] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 months ago
[-] notastatist@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He is the economistest of all the economists

[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

Hence the failure

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